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by Wes_Ingram » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:18 11
I would agree that the "tail" is better experienced off season. I've not been there, just heresay, but some of the videos show traffic "in season" and It looks heavy enough to be more dangerous. Have fun and ride safe whenever you go! Wes
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by Chet_Benson » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:39 11
I looked at the Blue Ridge Parkway not much for cars or cycles. With all of the traffic I would think otherwise but the folks that ride that road are not Hell bent to see how fast they can go they enjoy the ride.
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by gruntled » Wed Dec 28, 2011 14:25 14
I pulled up the Ortaga Highway between Lake Elsinore & the coast. No suprise there, almost solid orange.
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by rustynail » Wed Dec 28, 2011 14:30 14
Holy cow you are right!
Motorcycle hell is riding a loud, heavy cruiser shoed with a car tire on the uninspiring interstate highway system. I chose something else.
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by Scootereno » Wed Dec 28, 2011 17:13 17
Looks like east of the Mississippi is a dangerous place to be on the roads period. 
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by Daboo » Wed Dec 28, 2011 17:51 17
It would be interesting to know the general category of the motorcycle involved in the accidents also. Just an observation... - The roads like the Dragon are lined with accidents from what everyone has written. Since riders come from all over, just to say they've ridden it, I'd think many of the accidents would be on cruisers. They would have a better chance of overriding their capabilities...both for the rider and the bike. The sports bike riders probably would be well within their bike's capabilities and the traffic would tend to keep them riding slower.
- I was surprised to find the roads around here don't show fatalities in the curvy portions. The fatalities shown on the typical roads I've taken on day trips are in the straights. My guess is these are the sports bikes and the riders are trying to pass a long string of cars. It's typical rider behavior and one you read about in the newspapers of another rider killed.
- Another typical behavior on the straights around here, is the zoom-splat who is doing over 100 when he hits a car in a 35-45 mph speed zone. Hopefully, only the zoom-splat is killed. Sometimes they ride right inside the car.
- Both behaviors could be the reason the accidents in the Puget Sound area are showing up in the straights. (Not counting the numerous accidents that appear like they are on side roads with intersections.)
On one of the trips this past summer that I took to the North Cascades Highway, I left early in the morning. Traffic was light till I turned around to go home. I was amazed at how many people were on the road! I was surprised I wasn't killed either!! The biggest hazard were the motorcycles. There were packs of 15 or so crotch-rockets working their way through packed traffic. They'd jump out to pass where there wasn't room, counting on the cars to give them the space (one bike's worth, since the cars were usually tail-gating...and didn't back off to give the jerks any space) to get back in at the last minute. (And no, I felt absolutely no kinship to any of them to consider giving them a wave  ) If I remember correctly, there were two accidents that day involving motorcycles. I do find it interesting to look at the data and imagine the risk potential on the roads I travel. Chris
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by BirdmanA1A » Wed Dec 28, 2011 19:51 19
Daboo wrote: The biggest hazard were the motorcycles. There were packs of 15 or so crotch-rockets working their way through packed traffic. They'd jump out to pass where there wasn't room, counting on the cars to give them the space (one bike's worth, since the cars were usually tail-gating...and didn't back off to give the jerks any space) to get back in at the last minute. (And no, I felt absolutely no kinship to any of them to consider giving them a wave  ) If I remember correctly, there were two accidents that day involving motorcycles. I do find it interesting to look at the data and imagine the risk potential on the roads I travel. Chris
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by rustynail » Wed Dec 28, 2011 19:58 19
Yeah, I do think the sport bike culture has done just as much damage, if not more, than the loud pipe culture to motorcycling's image.
I have to admit that I was surprised at some of the ages on the map. You can reasonably be sure that most of the older riders weren't on zoom splats (I like that).
I wish you could read more into the data too!
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by Daboo » Wed Dec 28, 2011 22:11 22
rustynail wrote:...You can reasonably be sure that most of the older riders weren't on zoom splats (I like that)...
I wouldn't go that far.  I have a friend at work with a 2006 or 2007 FZ1. He's about 62, and maybe has 3000 miles on the bike. If you ask him, he's a motorcycle rider. But anyone with that few of miles with that many years on the bike is a hazard. On top of that, when he does ride the bike to work...maybe once or twice a year now...he tells me how great it felt at 85 mph. Speed limit is 60 mph. I read just about every post here as a mod, and I've read too many of members here who brag about how they get to 100 mph, sometimes on each ride at least once. A Burgman isn't a zoom-splat bike, but it'll suffice in a pinch. Chris
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by Buffalo » Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:01 12
Checked most of the twisty roads I regularly ride in this North Texas area and only one of them had had a motorcycle fatality. The Three Sisters in South Texas has it's share though as does the Mountain Road I ran off of in Arkansas.
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by Chet_Benson » Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:48 06
The main road that goes near my house has one section of road that has the most car accidents and it is the section that is straight and the speed is reduced to 45 mph. So many cars in that area most go too fast and do not watch where they are going.
As for drawing a conclusion from all of the cycle wrecks on a road. Not so easy to get a good answer but the numbers make you wonder.
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by BohicaSD » Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:40 11
Great web site. It's particularly scary to see how many fatalities there are at the confluence of two major highways, 1 mile from my house. The other thing is, it looks like it's a lot more dangerous to be a pedestrian and on a vehicle...(yes I understand the statistical side of things, just making an observation.)
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by Chet_Benson » Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:13 07
Example if you have a problem on an interstate you best stay inside the car. Or some distant away from it to stay safe.
As we know from riding a cycle, look where you want to go and somebody just may be looking at you on the side of the road.
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