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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 04-13-2017, 10:24 AM Thread Starter
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400 Corrosion advice please

Did a fan filter clean & gear oil renew yesterday and spotted this (5500 miles, 2013 burgman 400)
My scooter is showing too much corrosion.
I live in Ohio, ride all winter if roads clear of salt...my Kymco gets much more riding in these conditions and the Kymco metal shows nothing like I see on the Burgman - what gives with Suzuki metal??

Also, does everyone get road grit packed between the metal CVT cover and the plastic CVT cover? (yes, the snorkel is securely in place) I'd toss the plastic cover away but seems it is needed to work with the fan filter cover - or ??

What can I do to prevent more of this on my 400?

((ANYONE KNOW WHAT SIZE BOLTS THESE ARE ON THE OIL FILTER CAP??, not replacing with suzuki part !!))










Or, can I?


Will take a oil filter cover bolt to Fastenal or Lowes and replace all 3 with stainless. I just changed the oil a few months ago. That bolt gets much worse it will snap off the next filter change!
Thanks for your advice,
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Best protection I know is to spray all metal with ACF50.

It chemically bonds with metal, deactivates corrosion and produces a self repairing skin.

It was designedto protect aircraft components in extreme environments and not wash off (aluminium seaplane floats etc) and is used in military aircraft that fly from aircraft carriers (military approval MIL SPEC 81309 TYPE II AND III)

Be careful around threads/friction fits as it will penetrate/lubricate extremely well.


Corrosion protection is pathetic on bikes compared to modern cars.
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Best protection I know is to spray all metal with ACF50.

It chemically bonds with metal, deactivates corrosion and produces a self repairing skin.

It was designedto protect aircraft components in extreme environments and not wash off (aluminium seaplane floats etc) and is used in military aircraft that fly from aircraft carriers (military approval MIL SPEC 81309 TYPE II AND III)

Be careful around threads/friction fits as it will penetrate/lubricate extremely well.


Corrosion protection is pathetic on bikes compared to modern cars.
Thanks for the tip. I'm about to order a can for both Burgman's.
https://www.amazon.com/Lear-Chemical...ds=acf50+spray

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about a hundred years ago someone posted pics and instructions on building a thingy to keep road grime out from under seat area and top of gear case, maybe a search will help or someone will remember, my 400 had stainless bolts over oil filter, so maybe that's the best way to go . also a dinner ring , or small diamond pendant necklace and a rose or twodozen will get wifey to do a little better job on keeping the bike clean.

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Will take a oil filter cover bolt to Fastenal or Lowes and replace all 3 with stainless. I just changed the oil a few months ago. That bolt gets much worse it will snap off the next filter change!
Thanks for your advice,
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Stig, you must be a clean freak. I never worried about dirt or corrosion, I just wash the dirt off mine. How come you are getting so much dirt on your bike? All those pretty pictures you post is of your bike on clean city streets or paved country roads. Have you been doing any adventure riding with that thing?
For any corrosion, I just spray it with WD-40 and wipe it off.
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Coming from Wi, and trailering covered snowmobiles I can tell you that's salt related.
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Stig, you must be a clean freak. I never worried about dirt or corrosion, I just wash the dirt off mine. How come you are getting so much dirt on your bike? All those pretty pictures you post is of your bike on clean city streets or paved country roads. Have you been doing any adventure riding with that thing?
For any corrosion, I just spray it with WD-40 and wipe it off.
Cheers!
ED, watched a couple video demos of WD40 vs the ACF-50, by motorcyclist's.
No brainer - ordered a 32 0z bottle of the ACF-50, with free shipping from eBay.
Wish I'd had it when I had my Kymco's rear wheel off a few weeks ago. Spent 45 mins cleaning the rear of the engine with orange cleaner - ACF-50 would have sealed it up!

Will scrub up the Burgman, Kymco & CB500X and spray & wipe with this stuff.

Also, found an exact replacement bolt for the corroded oil filter cover bolts - in a can of spares hardware that I purchased form an eBayer who parted out all the hardware from a wrecked Kymco like mine. Lbs of parts for a pittance in like new condition. The box of hardware cost not much more than those 3 tiny Burgman bolts from Suzuki parts!

Thanks for the heads-up bluebottle! These rides aren't cheap vs my paycheck - and the stuff on the Burgman was bothering me.
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No salt down in LA

I do get grit inside the plastic CVT cover though, I clean it all at 3-4000 mile intervals

Replaced one oil filter cover bolt with a stud, easier to hold the cover when re-attaching it

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about a hundred years ago someone posted pics and instructions on building a thingy to keep road grime out from under seat area and top of gear case, maybe a search will help or someone will remember, my 400 had stainless bolts over oil filter, so maybe that's the best way to go . also a dinner ring , or small diamond pendant necklace and a rose or twodozen will get wifey to do a little better job on keeping the bike clean.

Don't need much to stop dirt getting between rear mudguard and top of the gear case not long after I had the bike. I made a flap out of Gaffer tape. (Duct tape). A section of tape folded over itself a few times to give a bit of rigidity then taped to the back of the clean mudguard. When the suspension is compressed the flap covers the gap and stops most of the water and dirt from sitting on top of the gear case. The black on the gear case top is ACF50 and dirt.


As for ACF50, it works wonders as can be seen on the oil filter area of my 14,500 mile 2013 machine used up here in cold, salty and wet Scotland.
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Here's my "flap" cut from a Honda car splash pan I found. The first attempt was from a piece of aluminum license plate, which accumulated grit behind it and rubbed against the engine housing
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