Who's Using The lithium ion battery? - Suzuki Burgman Forum
View Poll Results: Who Uses lithium ion batterys
TO COLD TO USE TAKES TO LONG TO START 1 20.00%
LIGHTER BIKES MOVES FASTER 1 20.00%
DON'T LAST LONG FAILS FAST!! 1 20.00%
LOVE THEM IF ONLY WORKED IN THE WINTER 2 40.00%
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post #1 of 69 (permalink) Old 02-09-2017, 11:56 PM Thread Starter
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Who's Using The lithium ion battery?

Any One Up Here Using the lithium ion battery, If So I,v Been Testing A HIONHB HALOGEN-ION-HEATED-BATTERY

I,v Been Testing it for a Week With Great Results, So Great it's been Starting at First Crank at a Outside Temperature of 50" Degrees

With NO Cold Start Procedures Necessary,

I know a lot don't trust These Batteries in the Long Run, and there Only Seem to Be Good for SUMMER USE But there Can Be Modified for WINTER USE!

MAX BURN TIME 3 MINUTES ONLY! 4-5 SCHEDULED ON/OFF Battery Heat Absorption 3 to 4 Minutes

But Testing will Resume!!

Will Keep you posted on Testing..

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Looks T00 much like a computer battery, I'll stick with my AGM for now, I'm not having any problem with it, I have no reason to switch.

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I been using a Shorai LiFe (lithium iron) for several years in my 400 now and in a Mp3 400 before that. It cost about $180 from Battery Stuff and I am very satisfied with it. There is a difference between Ion and Iron !!
At first glance it seems that anything that small and light could store any power at all. Compared to lead-acid there is only one difference I can see so far: The lithium delivers an initial current surge and the engine fires on the first turn, no matter what ambient temperature. Lead-acid can't do that.

As for service life, it will outlast the L/Acid, but so far it is not known how much longer. I'm happy with it and suggest that you get the recommended size, a high capacity battery may overpower the starter. On the Mp3, I got a larger than recommended and it would start with a loud bang. I was afraid that it would bend the connecting rod or something else !!

When the price comes down, it will replace lead-acid. There are probably other threads on lithium here in the forum, and some tend to bog down with a lot of ifs and buts.

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Wow. That thing looks like a fire waiting to happen. I don't see any charge control there, and overcharging a lithium ion battery is a sure way to make it explode in flames.

No thanks.
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I got a Ballistic lithium battery for my TMAX. Liked it so much I got another for my Reflex. Never had any issues starting in the cold, even at 16F.

They both failed in far too short of a period (2 years or so), just stopped holding charge, and became undependable, and they cost way too much.

I put the cheapest battery from Amazon in the Reflex, and I have put a Battery Tender lithium battery in my TMAX in November (which cost less than half of the Ballistic battery). Too early to comment on its performance, but I have high hopes.


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Wow. That thing looks like a fire waiting to happen. I don't see any charge control there, and overcharging a lithium ion battery is a sure way to make it explode in flames.

No thanks.
Your comment is well known in the computer world that has been plagued with flaming lithium batteries.....and yes the OP has requested replies on lithium-ion.
The point I was trying to make is that I been using a lithium-iron (LiFe) and am not having any problems with charging or overheating. And since the shelf life is much longer than lead-acid, there is no need to worry about starting a scooter that has been not been used for a long time.

I would say that the only disadvantage of lithium is the price. Lead-acid is a good way to go for anyone who is money challenged.

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Based on the available responses, this thread should probably be titled: "Of Those Who Use or Have Used Li+ Batteries, your biggest gripe is..."

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Well, This is my First One, Only had it 7 Months, now Was Ok in the Summer, But when Winter Showed up Started having Wake up Problems, It has a Circuit to Stop Charging, But think it Might have Failed, I did not want to go thru the Cold Start Starting , So i Jumped it with my lithium Engine Start Jumper, Might have Burnt out the Chip,

And you guys are right there Very expensive, I still have my Acid Battery but it Lost a Cell, and only have 11.8 Volt but still Starts with it..

I like the Lighter Battery Bikes Moves much faster with out all that Weight, I hope to get at least 2 years out of it..

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Wow. That thing looks like a fire waiting to happen. I don't see any charge control there, and overcharging a lithium ion battery is a sure way to make it explode in flames.
The fire will keep your butt warm during the winter commutes
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now Was Ok in the Summer, But when Winter Showed up Started having Wake up Problems. . . .
How could ANY battery survive a Los Angeles winter where the temps can get down into the 40's ??!!

And I'm sure it's lighter weight equates to better gas mileage. Why in 73,432 miles, it will have paid for itself (the first one, not the next two).

Now if it could save me from myself when I carelessly leave my parking brakes on to the point of stranding myself (about once every three years), then I'm interested.

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