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View Poll Results: Who Uses lithium ion batterys
TO COLD TO USE TAKES TO LONG TO START 1 20.00%
LIGHTER BIKES MOVES FASTER 1 20.00%
DON'T LAST LONG FAILS FAST!! 1 20.00%
LOVE THEM IF ONLY WORKED IN THE WINTER 2 40.00%
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One thing about those capacitors....as I understand it, they're one shot deals. Use it and then you have to recharge it. No thanks (:


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Large Capacitors can be charged real fast and then the discharge can be drawn out for a longer time. So you will get more than a couple seconds of cranking. But STILL....
a AGM battery is going to be hard to beat if it is kept good care of.

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3 years and counting for my Shorai in tropical Australia.

Even sitting for months the bike starts instantly. I would have gone through 3 stndard batteries in that time. I think they are ideal for hot/humid climates.
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Large Capacitors can be charged real fast and then the discharge can be drawn out for a longer time. So you will get more than a couple seconds of cranking.
My point was really that if you needed more than one jump start before you had a chance to plug it in somewhere and charge it up, you would be SOL.

And yes, I have been on trips where this has happened (:
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I,v Been Testing it for a Week With Great Results, So Great it's been Starting at First Crank at a Outside Temperature of 50" Degrees
LOL, is 50 degrees any kind of battery test?!

And Yes, the fire it makes can certainly warm you up!

Why the heck would I want one of those LI things when I got a nice brand new 10AH Sealed AGM Lead Acid Battery for my 400 from amazon.com for only $33 with free shipping and two day delivery? Fellas, this is a no brainer!
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3 years and counting for my Shorai in tropical Australia.

Even sitting for months the bike starts instantly. I would have gone through 3 stndard batteries in that time. I think they are ideal for hot/humid climates.
Sounds about right from my research, if you're not in an environment that drops below ~ 40F (~ 4C) you're probably better off; however it is a bit more volatile than an AGM, so you are more likely (but still unlikely) to cook one off as noted above.
In the cool, damp PNW. probably the wrong combination of things for that unless it winters in a garage that stays 40F+. Maybe if I get that second home in San Diego I'd like for winters...
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Just Don't Jump it MacDoc, Thats how i blew My Chip, I Jumped it with a Jumper,

Well i,v been looking on those Super / Ultra Capacitors Gio, i'm gonna Order Some when i Order My New Acid Battery, Only gonna be used for Back up!!!

I think i saw some User Made Ones on Ebay, already Built to work....

Good Point E.D., Those Batteries are just to expensive and you don't get enough Amps , and there CHINA Made i'm not a Fan of Made in China Much,

My Old Batt is installed MotoBatt, it is a 20 Amp, But don't really need that many Amps. So when i get a new one it will be a 10 Amp

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It's a 10 AMP/HOUR battery , not 10 Amps. The 10 Amp/Hour battery will put out 200 COLD CRANKING AMPS. It's important to understand the terminology and differences. The 400 uses a 10 Amp Hour Battery and the 650 uses a 12 Amp/Hour Battery of the Lead Acid AGM type.
The load testing of the battery is always based on the COLD CRANKING AMPS of the battery.
With a Variable Load Bank and a voltmeter both placed across the battery, and an ammeter connected in series with the Variable Load Bank, the LOAD is increased through the LOAD BANK until ONE HALF of the COLD CRANKING AMPS is achieved, and the voltage is read at that time. For a Lead Acid Battery of the Automotive/Motorcycle type, the voltage should be 9.5 volts or higher to pass. The higher the voltage is, the stronger the battery is.

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...The more Amps the Heaver the Battery...
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True dat, but seriously on a scoot that's being used for bumping around, not racing, a pound or even two just isn't that big a deal, but a few extra amps could bail ya out, particularly as the battery gets older.

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Sounds about right from my research, if you're not in an environment that drops below ~ 40F (~ 4C) you're probably better off; however it is a bit more volatile than an AGM, so you are more likely (but still unlikely) to cook one off as noted above.
I have to disagree. I routinely use my lithium battery in a cold environment. I was riding at 16F one day. It does just fine in the cold - that was actually a selling point for me.


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