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post #21 of 120 (permalink) Old 06-08-2004, 11:03 PM
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Great info!

Wow! Having this illustrated, step-by-step guide is great! Thanks for all that work for our benefit.

Now, I know exactly how to change the oil(s) in my new Burg:
1) drive to dealer
2) leave scoot with instructions
3) come back the next day
4) pay outrageous service bill
5) ride home smiling



Seriously, after the break-in period (of which I will go with the alternate method of "ride it like you stole it"), how about synthetics? I've been using plastic oil in all my high-performance vehicles for years. I still change every 3,000 miles.

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Re: refill amounts

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I have done 1 oil change and 1 service so far in 1000 klms and both times it has taken just OVER 3 liters to get it to the fill mark.
3 LITRES? That's 3000ml -- over 10 times what Suzuki recommends in the Owner's Manual.

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Back to school

1 liter = 1000 ml
2.9 lt = 2900 ml =3.1 US qt = 2.6 Imp qt, as per manual

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1 liter = 1000 ml
2.9 lt = 2900 ml =3.1 US qt = 2.6 Imp qt, as per manual
Silly me. I'm so embarrassed.

I was thinking of the final drive oil (300ml) not the crankcase oil (~3000ml).
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Re: Oil change with Pics(Long)

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3- Remove engine oil filler plug (pic 3.1)

4-Place an oil pan below the engine and remove the engine oil drain plug (pic 3.1)

5- After oil is completely drained , replace drain plug and tourque to
oil drain plug:23N-m (2.3 kgf-m, 16.5 lb-ft)
In (pic 3.1) there is another oil drain plug. It is very similar to the transmission drain plug...faces the ground, actuated with a hex key.

I loosened said plug by mistake while changing my oil yesterday. Could someone please tell me the proper tourque? Thank you.

About changing the fluids:

If you are going to take to lower panel off, there are two slotted tabs, behind the panel, between the front and rear floorboards. They can be felt and released if you reach your hand up behind the panel.

There is also a little tab at the lower leading edge of the exterior of the panel. This can be seen and is simple to disengage.

As for the black two part fasteners, the instant the center button gives a little click, stop pushing it. If you push the center button past the first quiet click, you've gone too far. You'll have to reach around from the back side and push the button back up or the fastener can not be extracted. This could be a problem.

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Re: Oil change with Pics(Long)

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3- Remove engine oil filler plug (pic 3.1)

4-Place an oil pan below the engine and remove the engine oil drain plug (pic 3.1)

5- After oil is completely drained , replace drain plug and tourque to
oil drain plug:23N-m (2.3 kgf-m, 16.5 lb-ft)
In (pic 3.1) there is another oil drain plug. It is very similar to the transmission drain plug...faces the ground, actuated with a hex key.

I loosened said plug by mistake while changing my oil yesterday. Could someone please tell me the proper tourque? Thank you.

About changing the fluids:

If you are going to take to lower panel off, there are two slotted tabs, behind the panel, between the front and rear floorboards. They can be felt and released if you reach your hand up behind the panel.

There is also a little tab at the lower leading edge of the exterior of the panel. This can be seen and is simple to disengage.

As for the black two part fasteners, the instant the center button gives a little click, stop pushing it. If you push the center button past the first quiet click, you've gone too far. You'll have to reach around from the back side and push the button back up or the fastener can not be extracted. This could be a problem.

I'm uncertain at this time what bolt you are refering to. The torque chart in the manual has several options for bolts not listed. I dont want to advise an incorrect measurement. The transmission drain plug is 8.5 lb-ft

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My biggest fear is taking my scoot apart for the first time (Bodywork) to access everything. Then, My next biggest fear is the
---- Transmission drain plug (viewable in prior photo)? I see a LOT of possible "Drain plugs". Being NON mechanical, anyone have a picture with an arrow to it or something?

---- The following torque spec scares me for some reason:" Drain Plug: 33N-m (3.3 kgf-m, 24.0 lb-ft)
Oil level plug is the same torque specs". Is 24 Ft. Pounds Correct? I busted a whold LOT of stuff off my last ride with the famous Suzuki "Soft Bolt syndrome". Also, my torque wrence is a 1/2" drive. I suppose I should buy another, smaller drive size torque wrench? Which size?

----I have a ton of Amsoil 10-40 Motorcycle oil I want to use in BOTH my motor AND Trans. Used in my 1500LC. LOVE the stuff and supposedly "clutch friendly" and WAS on my BIG Cruisers. ANY advise against it? I will use Suzuki's own "stuff" in my rear diff I suppose along with Suzuki's own oil filter.

Thanks for any pointers as I close on my 600 mile service. The wife and I are doing it as I am fairly disabled from surgery so she will do as I ask (GOD help us all)!

Thanks for any suggestions, Mike

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My biggest fear is taking my scoot apart for the first time (Bodywork) to access everything. Then, My next biggest fear is the
---- Transmission drain plug (viewable in prior photo)? I see a LOT of possible "Drain plugs". Being NON mechanical, anyone have a picture with an arrow to it or something?

---- The following torque spec scares me for some reason:" Drain Plug: 33N-m (3.3 kgf-m, 24.0 lb-ft)
Oil level plug is the same torque specs". Is 24 Ft. Pounds Correct? I busted a whold LOT of stuff off my last ride with the famous Suzuki "Soft Bolt syndrome". Also, my torque wrence is a 1/2" drive. I suppose I should buy another, smaller drive size torque wrench? Which size?

----I have a ton of Amsoil 10-40 Motorcycle oil I want to use in BOTH my motor AND Trans. Used in my 1500LC. LOVE the stuff and supposedly "clutch friendly" and WAS on my BIG Cruisers. ANY advise against it? I will use Suzuki's own "stuff" in my rear diff I suppose along with Suzuki's own oil filter.

Thanks for any pointers as I close on my 600 mile service. The wife and I are doing it as I am fairly disabled from surgery so she will do as I ask (GOD help us all)!

Thanks for any suggestions, Mike
Pappy the 24 ft lbs torque refers to the final drive gear drain and fill plugs on the swingarm. see pic http://burgmanusa.com/gallery/allwalk/finalgear2 arrows already supplied Look through the other pics in my gallery in reference to the engine and tranny plug locations.

All torque refrences came from the official Suzuki Burgman Shop Manual. This is the same manual your mechanic should have.

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Thanks,

I can't believe I MISSED your picture I was looking for. I checked a dozen times and flat MISSED it! Really scares me to think how bad I'll botch the actual service...Now, if I can just figure out if my Amsoil will hurt my tranny? I KNOW it will be good for my motor, but this tranny scares me. I THINK I'll probably use Amsoil 10-40 Motorcycle oil in motor, with regular old Dino Valvoline 10-40 in the tranny and just hang onto all my receipts in case of any warranty issues later. Along with Suzuki's own oil filter and diff gear oil, I THINK I'll be fine.
Hope you have some idea of how much your effort helps and means to folk like me! THANK YOU! Mike

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What a great string. How about some discussion of oils by brands?

I was using Mobil Delvac 1300 Super 15W40 and Shell Rotella-T 15W40 in my AN400K3. Is this oil okay for the 650? Can I use it for the engine and trans?

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