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cold weather tire mounting?

I've been mounting my own tires for a while now. Bought a used NOMar changer back in the spring. Have changed 6-8 tires for myself and a couple buddies. Today. 34 degrees. Epic fail. After hour or so, we just could not get that sucker on the rim. Old tire came off fine. But even with a heat gun we could not get the new tire on his M50. Finally gave up and took to local dealer, who did us a solid and popped it on ..... for NO charge. I dern near had a heart attack.

Anyway any tips on cold weather tire mounting? My 400 needs a new rear and cant wait till spring.

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I have never failed to be able to mount a rear tire on my burgman (although I have not tried in temps below 50). The only time I was unable to mount a tire was on my C50 which is probably the same rim as your friend's M50. Even on a warm day , in the sun, they could be a challenge. I'm certain that my issue was totally driven by technique. I find if I am super conscientious about keeping the bead centered in the rim, I have never had any issues getting the second bead over the lip.
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I'm certain that my issue was totally driven by technique.
I do think technique was definitely part of the issue. And impatience.
However, we had put a Shinko on the rear of his bike back in the summer with zero problems.

Cold tire I think was our biggest issue .... outside temp not as important as the temp of the tire at time of mounting I reckon.

Plan for mounting my 400 tire .....

Wait for 50 degree day, at least. I can ride my 650.
Watch and re-watch No Mar and YouTube tire mounting videos.
Pay attention to tire bead being in drop zone!
Ordered spoons from NoMar
Warm that tire, its inside now, and I plan to put in in my Trailblazer with heat on high for 30 minutes just b4 mounting. Fingers crossed.
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Usually some tire mounting lube( even slime) on the beads and they fall right on.
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My plan for tire changing, take it to the Seminole Scooter Shop in Pinellas Park Fl, where he's got a nice modern tire changing machine. He can pop the old one off and the new one on with no effort. And he does it cheap. Can't beat that, Cheap, Quick, Convenient!
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My plan for tire changing, take it to the Seminole Scooter Shop in Pinellas Park Fl, where he's got a nice modern tire changing machine. He can pop the old one off and the new one on with no effort. And he does it cheap. Can't beat that, Cheap, Quick, Convenient!
Okay, first off Pinellas Park, FL is just to far away. Second what is cheap?? How much?

I've had cheap at different times .... but they would go up on their prices OR, as the last guy, went out of business. In any case for the most part I was having to do a 40 mile round trip to get cheap. NOT convenient.

I opted for convenient. Now I can change a tire when I want to. Don't have to depend on someone else's availability, business hours or mood.
OR take the wheel and tire there and wait ... wait ...wait, or leave it and go back.

Plus I can clean/check the wheel and know that its balanced right. I got a NoMar used, cheap. Even with the cost of new NoMar spoons it will pay for itself in a couple of years and I can enjoy the convenience now.

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Well, the new rear tire on my 400 is mounted.* Got a good weather day last Saturday.* It was 53 degrees when mounting the tire, which had been inside the house for a couple of weeks now.* Got the NoMar spoons that I had ordered and that made all the difference in the world.*

These things are great!
https://www.nomartirechanger.com/Spo...b16set-org.htm

Now my mount-demount bar is just a de-mount bar.* I go two 16" and a 21" spoons.* After watching the NoMar video for changing a Goldwing rear tire, I used those methods and got the tire mounted myself with no problem.* 40 mile test ride and all is well. I will NEVER try an mount a cold tire again. Lesson learned

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Even with a No-Mar mount/dismount bar I end up using a pair of spoons on my 650's rear tire. That's with lube in the drop-well, and lots of experience changing my own tires. If I was going to change a tire in winter, I'd probably get as much done inside as I could before going outside, just to make the tire as pliable as possible.
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Okay, first off Pinellas Park, FL is just to far away. Second what is cheap?? How much?
On the 400, he mounts the rear for $45, and front for $25. He does NOT put any extras fees on the ticket, like shop fees, tire disposal fees, or others. But he does a very good through job, even put the Ride-On Sealer in the tire for no extra charge (of course I bring the new tire and the Ride-On). He was careful to put the muffler back on carefully to NOT mess up the exhaust connector gasket (but I carry a new one, just in case).

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Keep the tire indoors until you are ready to mount.
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