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post #11 of 26 (permalink) Old 08-06-2016, 08:05 AM Thread Starter
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that picture is the original variator, with 3000 miles. Im going to take the scoot apart today to see what the new one i installed before the cannonball looks like. i did check the drive at about 2500 miles into the trip and it was already showing wear. I have contacted suzuki about this and they said it was a wearable item. BS
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i don't want to spend $300-$400 on drive every 3000 miles.
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Did you run the absolute **** out of it? If so, that is different.
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Nope ran at 7000 - 7500 rpms. rarely did I hit 8000 going down a hill.
here are some new pictures. Variator has 3700 miles. belt 3700 miles, looks good, measures 22mm. rollers good no flat spots. clutch rusted and pads shot. clutch drive faces have a total of 9000 miles on it. it certainty doesn't look right.

The only problem I see going with aftermarket variator is they only offer one side. the inside plate would still wear prematurely.

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On a high-speed cruise, the variator is at full closed position. So that wouldn't wear it out. Something else is at work here. Also, the clutch isn't operating, when you are at full speed. It is 100% engaged. It wears only at its engagement point.
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Good point Z50, forgot they rarely come with a fixed pulley also. I would rather just replace the fixed pulley than the whole thing. Once again, Im paranoid, and I may just pull the cover and take another look at mine. Not sure about it being a isolated issue (or bad batch) because this is the second report from 2 different people about premature wear from the vario. I run mine WOT (70mph=8000rpm's) with a passenger on a regular basis and I have not felt any change in the way it rides. Maybe the problem was isolated and my B200 was not affected? Time will tell.
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if WOT is 70 mph and 8000 rpm and you run it at that, I would expect it to have a limited life. Suzuki would probably agree.
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But it is hard for me to believe WOT is only 70 mph.
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^ I think he means he just giving it WOT, and at that particular speed at 70 mph WOT is 8,000 rpm. I am quite sure the top speed is faster, probably about 85 mph and rpms about 9,000, maybe? Fill us in sc00ter & Z50.
But besides the speed and rpms, that entire CVT should hold up much better than what I am seeing here. If my B400 did that, I would be so pissed! I expect to get 40 to 50K miles out of the Vario & and Driven Pulley, at least 25k miles out of the clutch, at least 18K miles out of the drive belt. If the B400 has been such a good bike, why should the 200 not be as good? Could it be that because the 200 is HALF the size of the 400, that is it only HALF as good? I would expect MORE than that from Suzuki. We'll have to keep a close eye on these 200's to see how they work out.
Z50, could give us a good close up picture of the variator face with a nice straightedge across it, maybe with just a little light behind it, so we can see the wear gap between the face and the straight edge? Maybe you can slide a feeler gauge or gap gauge between the straight edge & the face to measure how much gap or wear you have on the face. I would guess that anything over .005" (thickness of the wall of an average aluminum can) would be a lot.
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Ok, heres the low down on speed. First, its a 200cc. I didnt want or need anything faster or larger. Basically, Its 1000rpm's over what speed you are doing. 30mph=4000rpm's, 40=5000, 50=6000 and so on. It will hit 85mph but you are really close to the redline. I cruise at 70-75mph and use the little extra for passing and whatnot. So, 70-75mph is what I consider a safe top speed. If I get the urge to go faster I take my wifes motorcycle. I only keep a scooter for around 4 years max, then its time for a new one again. So the motor-IF it wears out-is not really a concern. The only scooter that I have kept longer (5 years and counting) is a Genuine Buddy 125. The best little scooter I have ever owned. Fun, light, nimble and quick but too small for a passenger. Now if the Burg200 is still going strong after 4 years I may keep that one longer as well.
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