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Avoiding UA was a canny choice, but deprived you of a big adventure lol
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Sorry to hear that.

But why exactly ?

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Sorry to hear that.

But why exactly ?
Don't get me wrong Wojtek. I've met bikers from Poland in Moldova and they were really nice people. But my experience with Poland and polish people was so-so.

Let me describe my route: Presov - Rzeszow (staying night there) - Lublin - Bialystok - Augustow - Kaunas
My route back was via same route, but staying night at Lublin instead of Rzeszow.

So, first. I was aware that Poland is a country of trucks, but I was not aware that you have SO MANY trucks on any roads. It was freaking scary to pass 2-3 trucks on 2 lane road with rain. Also I will never ever forget Augustow - Kaunas road, where you have 2 lane road where trucks are going one by one with distance 5 meters at speed 90-100 at night, at rain and during twisties for many many kilometers. If you will stuck between trucks, you will need to go for kilometers with them without any ability to pass. Those 150 km was nightmare for me.

Second. Don't know why, but people are not friendly for tourists in your country. Ok, russian is my native language, but I was asking everywhere which language should I talk (english / ukrainian / russian) before actually asking question. And pretty much everywhere respect was like "what are you doing in my country, fucking tourist". No smile, no curiosity, nothing.

Third. Toilets on gas stations are fee-paying and you can pay only in PZL. Come on, seriously?

I know that you have big Burgman community in Poland and I'm pretty sure that you are friendly, but when I met group of Burgman owners which were riding near Augustow, close to Lithuanian border, only question they asked was if there is a rain ahead of their route.



Unfortunately food is not tasty everywhere I was eating.

And last thing, when I was riding from Lublin to Rzeszow on 2 lane road full of cars, trucks, tractors and road repairs, after 40 km of nightmare I was stopped by hidden police car just after passing last truck in village, when I opened throttle to get away from traffic congestion. They took not only my driver license, but also passport, even if I stopped immediately and admit my guilt. As a result - 300 plz / 75 euro penalty and only when I paid it in next village, they give my documents back.

Maybe if I will come next time there my impression will be changed, but now I don't have any wish to pass it anyhow.

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oh thank you @Foxyrhei for sharing the ride log with us. It's an honor to have inspired you to go out and ride. I agree with you in most of thoughts after your riding experience, specially that one where Miles do not translate directly into hours.

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Don't get me wrong Wojtek. I've met bikers from Poland in Moldova and they were really nice people. But my experience with Poland and polish people was so-so.

Let me describe my route: Presov - Rzeszow (staying night there) - Lublin - Bialystok - Augustow - Kaunas
My route back was via same route, but staying night at Lublin instead of Rzeszow.

So, first. I was aware that Poland is a country of trucks, but I was not aware that you have SO MANY trucks on any roads. It was freaking scary to pass 2-3 trucks on 2 lane road with rain. Also I will never ever forget Augustow - Kaunas road, where you have 2 lane road where trucks are going one by one with distance 5 meters at speed 90-100 at night, at rain and during twisties for many many kilometers. If you will stuck between trucks, you will need to go for kilometers with them without any ability to pass. Those 150 km was nightmare for me.
Yeah.. Main roads are always like that. Only on weekends trucks are not allowed. But You have to deal with weekend drivers. And I personally prefer trucks.
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Second. Don't know why, but people are not friendly for tourists in your country. Ok, russian is my native language, but I was asking everywhere which language should I talk (english / ukrainian / russian) before actually asking question. And pretty much everywhere respect was like "what are you doing in my country, fucking tourist". No smile, no curiosity, nothing.
Sorry. I forgot to mention to NOT try speak Russian (or similar). Some historic remnants... But should not happen anyway... Sorry...
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Third. Toilets on gas stations are fee-paying and you can pay only in PZL. Come on, seriously?
Well... yeah... It happens. Try use big gas stations like Orlen, Shell, BP.
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Unfortunately food is not tasty everywhere I was eating.
I think it may happen everywhere...
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And last thing, when I was riding from Lublin to Rzeszow on 2 lane road full of cars, trucks, tractors and road repairs, after 40 km of nightmare I was stopped by hidden police car just after passing last truck in village, when I opened throttle to get away from traffic congestion. They took not only my driver license, but also passport, even if I stopped immediately and admit my guilt. As a result - 300 plz / 75 euro penalty and only when I paid it in next village, they give my documents back.
Bad luck... Though I think they like to capture foreigners... Easy prey...
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Maybe if I will come next time there my impression will be changed, but now I don't have any wish to pass it anyhow.
I think we should invite You next year to cancel this bad image.

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Sorry. I forgot to mention to NOT try speak Russian (or similar). Some historic remnants...
Lol, language has nothing to do with it -- for those started the WWII doesn't matter what language to speak - German, Russian or Polish. They are good at languages in general. Of course, Russians and the Germans were not smart enough to let those people push themselves around like being foisted one with Nazi idea, another - with Communism. Both had failed as the result, but also took American lives who had to interfere in the process to stop the bigger of two evils.

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Nice trip friend, you definitely had fun. Looking for more photos.

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[quote=Foxyrhei;1436361]Thanks @fernando
- It's really worth involving your passenger to trip planning. Also in such trips is really hard to stay calm and avoid conflicts with your passenger


I could NEVER take such a trip with my wife without conflict. Her comfort levels and mine are miles apart I imagine 5 day trip by myself would be 8 day trip with a passenger
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Appreciate your comments, guys!

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Wojtek, thanks for the invitation I know polish relationship with russians and germans. But hey, there are thousands of people living in Ukraine / Moldova / Georgia / Belarus / Kazahstan which speaks russian as native language, but they are not russians! And anyway, we were just tourists without any symbolic, ambitions.

Well, as I said before, polish tourists / bikers I met were really nice people.
By the way, do you join any Burgman gatherings in Poland? I guess Burgmania annual event is polish?
Do you travel abroad on your Burgman?

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That's true. But in that trip I did my best from gear and bike preparation for my passenger and that helped me a lot. I did:
- Airhawk 2 Seat Cushioning for both
- AirFlow screen raised to highest level
- Givi backrest + rack for top case, so passenger do not carry backpack
- Fullface helmet for her
- Music and intercom
- Touring pants / jacket + rain shoe cover + rainwear
- Thermal vest, trousers, balaclava and socks for her
And most important: stretch stops every 100 km or on request

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More photos here: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0X5oqs3qXUxLL

Also I will add some photos here with my comments

5-th day of riding under the rain. Happy selfie with tractor on background


Interesting thing that you will see "Helsinki" sign in port of Tallinn (80 km away from Helsinki). Boat is really huge, you can wait 30 minutes watching only trucks leaving boat non-stop


"Postcard" to my american friends from finish aviation museum. Who will guess type of this WW2 Fighter?


And another photo from same museum which makes butt-hurt to Russians, because blue swastika (nazi-sign) was official logo of Finish Air Force from early 30-s, years before WW2


Crushed truck somewhere in Lithuania


I've started collecting stickers from every country I visited on a bike. Like adult GS guys


Greetings from Slovakia. Really nice country, like eastern Ukraine like it should be


Typical local road in Poland. Watch for elks / deers crossing roads


Poland rainbow (just kidding). Typical weather in Baltics, 50 km from Tallinn, Estonia


Also I've found another great mountain pass in Romania. It's really breath-taken, where you can run up to 5-lane (!) twisties with speed 100 km/h+ on 2000m altitude.


Sometimes summer happen even in Baltics People swimming in baltic sea, where water temperature is +16C and air temperature is around +26. And this is warm for them!


Summer in central Finland. I guess same sights can be in Canada / Alaska


Finish people are crazy about environmental care. If you will cut your trees, then you must to plant forest instead within 5 years or you will get huge penalty. This crazy piece of fetish-machinery can cut down the tree, load log on a truck and then plant a tree with precision 5 cm! It can cut only specific trees, on specific area, it has GPS and tons of features. I guess it has so many functions as modern jet-fighter



Typical "dacha" (summer-house) in Finland


There are few thousands lakes in Finland connected with each other


Cheers to BUSA from Domo-Kun
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Wojtek, thanks for the invitation I know polish relationship with russians and germans. But hey, there are thousands of people living in Ukraine / Moldova / Georgia / Belarus / Kazahstan which speaks russian as native language, but they are not russians! And anyway, we were just tourists without any symbolic, ambitions.
I know. As everywhere, in Poland too, You can meet people and stools. Sorry for bad encounter with the latter. People tend to generalize: You speak Russian --> You are Russian --> We don't like You. This is not my point of view.
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Well, as I said before, polish tourists / bikers I met were really nice people.
By the way, do you join any Burgman gatherings in Poland? I guess Burgmania annual event is polish?
Do you travel abroad on your Burgman?
Yes, Burgmania is in Poland. I'm new to the Burgman society here, just made A -license in August and bought B400 this July. I'll try to join Burgmania 2017 , but no promises. If You want, I can keep You updated on the event.

Anyway, really nice trip and nice pictures. I hope some day I'll be brave enough to travel on my Burgman and see interesting places. So far, for long trips I prefer a car.
But there is a brand new season next year.

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