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ABS Brakes vs Non ABS Video

I'm a huge fan of ABS Brakes. Here is a convincing video.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ_UkAFW6cA

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Looks very compelling BUT it looks like every time he hits the brakes on the NON ABS he also turns the bars enhancing the skid?

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I still wish I had ABS on my 650.

I like this KYMCO ABS vs Non-ABS video better, two bikes side by side. They even swap riders between the bikes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j32...m7XIBsfcIPv63a

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I still wish I had ABS on my 650.

I like this KYMCO ABS vs Non-ABS video better, two bikes side by side. They even swap riders between the bikes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j32...m7XIBsfcIPv63a
I must agree, a better video. Plus, I like the commentator better, too!

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Watching this just now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6kO...TydVt5MVfykj3w

I have Combined ABS on the CBF1000 and love it.

My criticism of the first one....it looks like the rider did not try to avoid a lock up at all which is not reality.

In this one the ABS shows the rider staying straight and upright and these are good riders.

From the video ....if you are reallllllly good on the brakes....you can get close to the ABS times.

For the average rider.....it's a no brainer...get ABS.

My CBF1000 is a detuned Fireblade and has the same braking system as shown. Very re-assuring and the combined braking aspect is terrific. - it's shown near the beginning how the combined works...and it does.

I used to love dual hand braking on the Burgman. The CBF is the first bike I've own with better brakes than the Burgman 650. Of course it's 100 lb lighter too.


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ABS or not isn't a deal breaker for me. I try to avoid all situations were it may help. That being said, I think ABS is one of those things you're thankful for if and when it's needed, and something all new riders should consider.

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Looks very compelling BUT it looks like every time he hits the brakes on the NON ABS he also turns the bars enhancing the skid?
Yeah, it's rigged. The rider on the "dangerous" non-ABS bike is twisting the bars to force the skid.

I have been riding for 55+ years, all without ABS, and by "observing surrounding conditions" have never felt I needed it. Same goes for my cars; my current "ride" a '98 SL500 is the 3rd cars I've owned with ABS.

It's never on any of those vehicles been activated that I know of and those who know me (and the Massachusetts and Connecticut State Police and Florida Highway Patrol and respective traffic court systems) will tell you that my right foot is far from "light".

If you drive sensibly and defensibly, approach intersections and any other "WTF" situation with extreme caution, pay close attention to road conditions and know how to control your vehicle you'll never need it...

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Yeah, it's rigged. The rider on the "dangerous" non-ABS bike is twisting the bars to force the skid.

I have been riding for 55+ years, all without ABS, and by "observing surrounding conditions" have never felt I needed it. Same goes for my cars; my current "ride" a '98 SL500 is the 3rd cars I've owned with ABS.

It's never on any of those vehicles been activated that I know of and those who know me (and the Massachusetts and Connecticut State Police and Florida Highway Patrol and respective traffic court systems) will tell you that my right foot is far from "light".

If you drive sensibly and defensibly, approach intersections and any other "WTF" situation with extreme caution, pay close attention to road conditions and know how to control your vehicle you'll never need it...
You're right, but all it takes is just once and................


your DEAD or Crippled. Yes that was a fatal crash. Who know's ABS may not have saved his life, then again it my have. If ABS is available why not have it? It has long past proven effective.

Gosh I in my 60's and I have only gotten one ticket in my life in 1978 I have never had a crash. I must not know how to drive or I missing something.

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I generally have not needed it in adverse weather but was happy to have when the idjit women in front decided a squirrel had more value than me....open road no traffic - I wasn't following close and she slams on the brakes.....
She DID wave an apology after she checked her kid hadn't hit the windscreen....

I might have stopped in time ....I might have lost it trying to stop in time. The ABS did stop me in time with never a sense of control loss.
It's simply very nice to have in your corner.
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