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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 11-03-2005, 08:46 PM Thread Starter
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Malossi variator

Well finally jumped in and ordered ... Malossi variator and kevlar belt for my Burgman 250

First quoted $79.00 for belt and $395.00 for variator plus freight ...

But I think I got a good deal at $425.00 for both including freight ...

I let you know how it goes ...

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I've also stuck my head out and ordered for my B400.... but I've ordered the Polini variator/belt/clutch/spring set instead...

Set me back around US$530 (everything included) from a local workshop for the whole lot....


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Well my variator turned up friday ...

And I fitted it this morning ... took about an hour or so ...

Straight forward not to hard ... except removal & refitting nut ...

Used impact tool to remove the nut (tight) ...

There was no bolt holes in the fixed hub so had to (don't get scared) use large screw driver into the cooling fins to hold it ... 95nm not to tight ... the fins are thick so all went ok

Quick ride very impressed 90% of the clutch vibration is gone I can only feel it if I make it vibrate by staying with in the clutch engagement rev range ...

I think most of the result is from the revs being higher (800-1000) and the clutch now fully engages on normal take off instead of 1/2 & 1/2 when at lower revs ...

The hole scooter feels smoother and engine is reving higher but it feel like it is running smoother without bogging itself down at to lower rev range ... if you get my drift ...

Quick look at revs at speed

60klmph = 5,900
70klmph = 6,150
80klmph = 6,800

I'll post the before Malossi rpm to speed monday have all that info at work

Full throttle now goes straight to 8,000 when you reach about 40-45klmph it then continues up the rev range as you increase speed ... very nice ...

Even cornering is smoother out of the corner without the bogging down that it had before ...

Post more when I have a good ride during the week ...

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Full throttle now goes straight to 8,000 when you reach about 40-45klmph it then continues up the rev range as you increase speed
Greg, 8,000 rpms and increases?? Did you mean to say 6,000 rpms?

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Greg,

Glad to hear about your positive review of the Malossi variator so far.... My own review may have to wait... seems like the Polini parts are quite horribly back-ordered....


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Greg - glad to hear the fitting went smoothly and the effect on your 250 was useful, the effect on the 400 is as you can probably imagine now - quite dramatic!

I still miss my olde 400!

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Quick update on this mornings ride to work ...

Suzuki variator..................Maloossi

60klmph = 4,900...............5,900
70..........= 5,200...............6,150
80..........= 6,000...............6,800
90..........= 6,900...............7,150
100........= 7,500...............7,500
110........= 8,100...............7,900
120........= ?......................8,100
Ran out of freeway this morning, bit hard to go far without catching the traffic ... the 110 & 120 figures are app. due to not enough open freeway to settle on that speed ...

Full throttle with Malossi 7,500 till about 35 - 45Klmph then increases to 8,000 ...

Full throttle any speed above 45Klmph 8,000 ... pulls away smoothly without the rubber band effect ...

Let you know mileage in a week or two when I next fill up ... may be down on original but It maybe because I'm exploring the new performance abit to much ... if you know what I mean

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I'm finally expecting my 16g rollers to arrive tomorrow (for my 400). I'm hoping this is the best value / money spent. Will post results. Surgery prevents me from installing but have found a scoot shop to do it for me.

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Well, the Polini parts arrived and it seems.......It seems I may have bitten off a bit more than I can chew! (as in changing the variator/clutch/belt and torque spring at the same time)

Results are not exactly what I expected... The bike revs much more freely now and doesn't bog down around the 3~4K rpms.... (which is what I wanted).... BUT the speed seems to pick up much, much slower than before!

Wondering now what could be the cause..... I've got a feeling it could be the spring (which looked longer than the original, stiffer too I suppose)...

Or could it be the parts take some time to "bed" or run-in?

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Quick update on this mornings ride to work ...

Suzuki variator..................Maloossi

60klmph = 4,900...............5,900
70..........= 5,200...............6,150
80..........= 6,000...............6,800
90..........= 6,900...............7,150
100........= 7,500...............7,500
110........= 8,100...............7,900
120........= ?......................8,100
Greg - you may be 'getting wrapped round the axle here' - top end - say from 95 Km/hr onwards AND top speed is unaffected by variator changes. The variation you are reporting here is the 'scatter' in results you can expect in the real world when conditions vary in terms of launch speed, terminal speed, road gradients and even reading the tach precisely.

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