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BMW on twisty and crash

He was doing great...and then he wasn't. I think the 2016 have traction control which might have saved him

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He was doing great...and then he wasn't. I think the 2016 have traction control which might have saved him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU1-vsJ2oWg
Well, given that him and his buddies were ALL OVER THE ROAD, and couldn't seem to stay in their own lane, I'm not surprised (at least) one of them crashed.


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The complete fail to stop at any of the stop signs is a bit troubling
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I think this is a one way, one lane route.
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I think this is a one way, one lane route.
You are correct. I looked at it again.

Previous poster is right though - they didn't even slow down for the stop lines, let alone stop. I like how they just stand in the middle of the road at the end too. Great big parking lot RIGHT THERE, but they just stop BARELY off the road, and then stand in the road. Real nice. I don't know, but my suspicion is that where these guys ride, they're not helping out the reputation of motorcycle riders.

You know the people in the cars that he passed are laughing at him when they go by after the crash.


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In the comments to the video you can read some saying that the slide out was due to the dynamics of pushing a maxi-scooter through G forces that it has no business being put through. Something about how a conventional motorcycle transmission would have made the rear tire correct itself & stand back up (not sure if I understand what they mean to say).
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I believe that is coming from motorcycle people who never rode a scooter. I think he hit some gravel or debris and slid out. It would have been interesting to see his speeds but he was passing everything in sight.
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Yup, either he didn't know the road or the scooter.

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In the comments to the video you can read some saying that the slide out was due to the dynamics of pushing a maxi-scooter through G forces that it has no business being put through. Something about how a conventional motorcycle transmission would have made the rear tire correct itself & stand back up (not sure if I understand what they mean to say).
I think what he was trying to say was, "rider error".


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I think what he was trying to say was, "rider error".
Here is a copy of what youtube user "Julian Black" said:

Least you are OK, good for you. My thoughts are you are mostly a motorcycle rider, and a good one! For a maxi scooter the turn looked taken too fast and became too wide and the bike hit some rubble. Scooters are so heavy and have that low weight, when hitting even the slightest bit of loose sand on a lean they slip out from under you, no braking can help, it's like brakes don't even exist. A motorcycle will just kick right back up. Guess that why there are no Dirt Scooters .I've seen it too many times on LA scooter rallies. Rare to see a well used maxi scooter without some road rash.

Then there's a comment from one "Hussars LA":

according to the rider, front brakes over heated , lost strength he had to compensate with rear brakes cause he was running wide in that corner , and lost the rear leaning to take the corner. you can see him having a moment following the red CBR before passing him . scooter is comfy but brakes endurance is not for canyons...

It seems to me these guys and two others named MTB and Dani M are blaming it on the bike being a scooter. What say you all?

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