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It works best if I just say: It's a scooter if it has a step-thru frame, small wheels, and a trunk (boot) for groceries".
and don't forget 'twist & go.' I would think a bike would need to have at least one additional attribute in addition to being an automatic to be called a scooter.

This Honda is an automatic adventure bike wearing a nice suit of clothes. As a tourer, commuter and general about town errand runner, this bike gives up a lot. If this is a city bike, I'd sure hate to live in that town. I hope it's a blast to ride on the adventure side of things. It is a looker though - would love to see one in person.

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Windshield? Fairing protection? Dirt riding? Wouldn't an off road scooter just require a 250cc or less engine like many off road bikes? Or is it really an off road bike at all or just a maxi-scooter that can go off road by the way?

I don't see how it would lure many (or any) scooter riders over to it. From what we know of most people who love to ride scooters (and why they do so), I don't think there'll be any sign ups who will sell their scoots off to buy this thing. I love Honda more than most people but with the DN-01, NM4 and others why do they always come so close but not get it right? Who are they hiring for their research and development? I understand bold but you have to be smart about it too. Rant over.
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I'm old and think it's silly looking, like something out of a "transformers" cartoon (my grandchildren used to watch those), To me it's just another case of vehicle designers pandering to the current obsession with "aggressive" styling--a "generational" thing I guess.

City Adventure they call it; where does my Bushmaster go?

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Overall I like the design BUT I don't think it would be that good for offroad. Not like a true adventure bike and for sure a true dirt bike.

Put some city tires on it and I would consider it. Of coarse if it does get built it most likely won't come to NA. Honda opted not to bring the Integra scooter and this is said to be based off of that.

As to what defines a scooter - a foot deck instead of pegs{yes I know some motorcycles have small foot decks in place of pegs}. Scooters can have large or small wheels and can have conventional transmissions{Genuine Stella! - old Vespa copy}. They have great storage now but most classic scoots have little if any storage. But the one thing ALL scooters have in common is a foot deck. There are a few small motorcycles that use twist and go scooter engines and transmissions but to me those are not scoots because they lack the foot deck{example the Gilera DNA - see picture below}


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I'm old and think it's silly looking, like something out of a "transformers" cartoon (my grandchildren used to watch those), To me it's just another case of vehicle designers pandering to the current obsession with "aggressive" styling--a "generational" thing I guess.

City Adventure they call it; where does my Bushmaster go?
Compared to the NM4, this bike is a plain-Jane.

speed&style added another scooter attribute: Floorboards/multiple foot positions. Still not calling this thing a scooter, though.

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What is an "NM4"?

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What is an "NM4"?
It's a Honda came out last year (I think) - do a Google search on 'NM4' and pictures will pop right up.

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It's a Honda came out last year (I think) - do a Google search on 'NM4' and pictures will pop right up.
Found it, Batman had one of those in the late 60s...
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Been talking about this concept on a UK forum. Its not for me but a few people were very interested. we are supposed to be getting it in 2017.

On the definition of "scooter"
Common usage varies but I used to have to categorise vehicle designs for officialdom and what would appear on the documents.
"Scooter" was a "body type" defined by not having a direct frame member between the seat base and the headstock (ie a step-through)

Other features may sometimes, but not always include, small wheels, automatic and footboards.

A "body type" is a loose category for visual recognition. Handy for things like the police wanting a visual description.
It carried no privileges or weight in law or taxation.

International standards varied slightly and was complicated by some countries recognising "underbone" and "motor scooter" and some not.

There is an ISO international standard of vehicle classification but I've forgotten the number of the particular document.

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Common usage varies but I used to have to categorise vehicle designs for officialdom and what would appear on the documents.
"Scooter" was a "body type" defined by not having a direct frame member between the seat base and the headstock (ie a step-through)
So a Honda Cub is a scooter then?

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