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Old 09-02-2009, 10:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Well, I have all the equipment, including the HF portable tire changer w/motorcycle attachment and MojoBlocks, a MojoLever and a Parnes balancer. I've changed tires from the ones on my old Harley Ultra w/cast wheels to Piaggio MP3's to Triumph spokes, etc; but the rear Bridgestone was, BY FAR, the most difficult tire to install on a rim!

The sidewalls are so rigid that I couldn't force the lip into the center channel of the rim and even though it was snugged down tight in the tire changer, the rim kept turning against the strain of the MojoLever. Finally, I used my hot air gun to warm the tire, used a ton of tire lubricant and the tire went on. HURRAY!!! And there isn't as much as a scratch on the wheel

I noticed that the factory didn't bother balancing the rear wheel; but I took the time to do it, and the results were a much smoother ride at freeway speeds. I think that balancing the wheel and running 41 psi in the rear will probably result in improved tire wear. By the way, I got 11,200 miles out of the original rear tire, and I always kept it at 41 psi.
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Old 09-02-2009, 12:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I did mine about a month ago by hand and it was by far the most challenging tire I have ever mounted.

The difficulty arises from the very stiff bead and the rather small circumference. I lack the raw hand power to hold the bead down by hand so I had to resort to two 6 inch c-clamps to keep the bead from seating while trying to get it onto the rim... lubrication, lots of it, is definitely a primary element in getting this job done successfully.

It took me 4 tries before I could declare victory over the tire... The heat gun trick is a good one ....

I will be putting out a DIY video soon for those that may be interested in doing this themselves.

I always balance the wheel by iteself and then again with the tire on. My front tire required no weights but the rear needed about 14 grams to balance out...
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Old 09-02-2009, 01:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I was surprised that the factory didn't deem it necessary to balance the rear wheel, but I noticed a much smoother ride after doing so. Like you, I balance the rim before mounting the tire to find the exact heavy point to put the reference dot on the new tire. With the "pressure minder" valve cap, the valve stem was definitely the heavy point.

Warming the tire definitely made the job easier, along with tons of NoMar lube. I'm also going to get the "Yellow Thing":

http://www.nomartirechanger.com/products/10 and or the "XtraHand":

http://www.nomartirechanger.com/products/8

I think those devices could make the job one heck of a lot easier...
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I have similar device and it did not help. I gave up and went to the dealer. That tire is THE WORST!!
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I had similar problems installing my Michelin on the rear. This job is not an easy one and probably the most difficult cycle tire I have ever changed. I am not looking forward to the next change.
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the Nomar products are nice, but way over priced for what they do... c-clamps work just as well and do the same exact thing at a fraction of the price, I have 3 big 6" ones and a dozen or so smaller one in all sizes, 1,2,3,4 inches... I use clamp pads to keep the rim from being scratched or just use some left over pieces of leather or thick plastic.

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I usually leave my tire out in the sun for a few hours prior to mounting it but that didn't help too much with the rear tire for the 650, the bead is just too stiff, clamping it down with lots and lots of lube finally did the trick for me...

I mounted the tire the old fashion way with 3 tire irons. I may make a jig for the next tire change to keep the wheel in place and the tire pushed forward into the wheel cavity.

Just don't use too much force as you could end up damaging / bending the rim or removing chunks of rubber from the bead...

Of course it took half a dozen tries to just break the bead on the old tire, again, lots of repeaed lubrication did the trick.
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I just returned from the Dealer, not Stealer this time with a new Michelin Pilot Sport SC on the rear of the Burger King...Bought the tire at Motorcycle Superstore ($111 delivered)...lashed it onto the back seat...and the Dealer only charged 1/2 hour labor to Remove, Balance and Replace on the bike...$32.50 labor As long as the dealer keeps this pricing, I'm not interested in learning how to change a tire I should be good for another year now

Had a similar pricing experience on my Goldwing a few weeks back...Times are slow I guess

Have a few more miles left to scrub it in, but it sure was nice to have a "round" rear again instead of the square slick

BTW the front Stone has 11,500 on it and has tons of tread left...I guess paying attention to tire pressure does make a difference

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With that kind of pricing, I could easily forget how to change the rear tire. The local dealer (stealer) here wanted $100 labor to do what you had done.
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I agree the rear tire is more difficult than some but not all that bad. I did mine in very warm weather using glass cleaner for lubricant (best thing I had). Using my knees to keep the one side pushed in I needed a 2 foot bar to get the final pop onto the rim. I used a crow bar wrapped with duct tape along with homemade rim protectors (old milk container) but now own several HF long tire irons for the next time.
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