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post #1 of 46 (permalink) Old 04-18-2017, 04:01 PM Thread Starter
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Starting problems

Tried to start my 2011 AN650, and after first viewing the panel display, I attempted to start and got nothing. Panel display died. Changed battery and now get the display, but when I attempt to start it, I get a clicking sound below the handle bar tupperware. Any ideas??

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I'm betting your replacement battery is also low.
Was your replacement battery on a trickle charge before you did the swap?
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Starter failed. If there is clicking it's the starter relay so that works.
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Brand new. 13V 357 cranking amps
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when you press start button now, with new battery, does the display go dark? This is the time you hear the clicking? I take it you don't hear a whirring sound?

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Starter failed. If there is clicking it's the starter relay so that works.
So it is probably the starter. Is that something that is easily replaced by a user, or should it go to the shop?
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when you press start button now, with new battery, does the display go dark? This is the time you hear the clicking? I take it you don't hear a whirring sound?
Display stays lit, clicking sound is below the display panel under the handlebar tupperware.


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According to my shop manual, the starter motor is right on top of the engine. To access it you remove the center cover, in front of the seat, disconnect one wire, and remove the starter motor mounting bolts.
For smooth removal, turn the starter motor backward so the brush terminal, where the wire was, points up. To install, apply grease to the new o-ring on front of starter. Tighten mtg. bolts to 7 ft-lbs. and the starter motor lead wire nut to 4.5 ft-lbs.
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OK, I know you are in a hurry. But do not be enough of a hurry to spend money when you do not need to.

There are some troubleshooting things to do first.

You said NEW battery and it is 13V and 357 cranking amps. I just had a battery fail and I bought a Duracell Ultra YTX14-BS factory size replacement. It has 220 cranking amps.

Do you have a digital volt meter? An analog one will work but watching that needle move while testing is not as easy.

While at a steady state, fully charged you should get about 12.80 or better for 100% charged.
This needs to be measured, NOT guessed at.


12.80 or greater = 100%
12.60 = 75%
12.30 = 50%
12.00 is DEAD = 25%
11.80 may not recover = 0%

Do this test first.

Then we get to voltage WHILE cranking. The computer will not let the fuel injectors fire at below 12.30 volts so while cranking it must be above 12.30 V. If it drops below this then another test needs to be done and this is where I get the jumper cables out. For testing only, I hook them up to a known good car battery but DO NOT START THE CAR!!!! Quickly now I do the cranking test again and if it drops below the 12.30 volts it MAY be in the starter system or in the bikes wiring. Disconnect the car battery from the bike after testing.

But if you start car while hooked up to the bikes system it will fry things real quick so never start the donor vehicle. A motorcycle battery will take about 2 AMPs MAX or damage may happen. Even hooking a motorcycle battery up to a car battery will over charge it so you have to do this testing quickly and then disconnect the car battery.
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Couple things to try that might help, or not, but are pretty basic and easy.

- Carefully depress the starter button, don't just mash it all the way, just push until it obviously engages. My 07 is a fussy that way to the point that I keep a fat, but small o ring on it.
- Verify your battery cables are clean at tight at both ends. Just cuz ya swapped the battery doesn't mean it's all clean and tight at both ends. I've have it work loose before at either end and had corrosion on the cable I didn't catch initially as well.
I'm assuming you've already power cycled the system since since you changed out the battery.

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