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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 05-08-2017, 07:50 PM Thread Starter
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Unhappy Squeal noise when taking off from a stop

Hello! I own a AN400 K5. I just had a thousand dollars worth of work done to the clutch/rollers/belt at the end of last summer. They replaced everything under the sun if I remember right. I am now getting a squealing sound when I take off from a complete stop. This just started happening yesterday. It does not happen all the time, but it is getting more frequent. It sounds to me like a bad bearing, but I am not sure. Has anyone else every had this type of issue?
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It is probably clutch glazing and/or dust build up.

Try to avoid slipping your clutch too often to creep forward in traffic etc. and set off briskly at least a few times on each trip.

As a quick fix you can hold the bike on the brake and rev the engine to 4000/5000 revs for 3-4 seconds. I would not do it for much longer and I would not do it often as others advise - it is abusing the clutch - but it will often remove the immediate problem.
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this is a common issue with the 400, there are really only 2 permanent fixes, loud earphones or buy a 650 lotsa posts in history , for burgman squeal or whatever, and lotsa fights about deglazing or not, when I had my second 400 it squealed, but only for about 100 miles till it got run over by a ford f 250

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This is my standard recommendation for riding the 400...

Depending on riding style, terrain and load, the clutch pads have a tendency to heat up and glaze after a while, 5k-20k miles. It's not a big deal and happens on most CVTs. The glaze just needs to be sanded off. The shops I've had it done at charge $40-90. If you're at all good with your own maintenance, its not too difficult to do yourself.

To help prevent glazing, try to blip the throttle on take-off to 4500 rpm, then adjust your speed accordingly. This maneuver will engage the clutch quickly and limit heat buildup. You can't avoid heating the clutch altogether, but this technique will lessen the severity and extend the time between deglazings.

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when I had my second 400 it squealed, but only for about 100 miles till it got run over by a ford f 250
sorry, I had to laugh at the framing of that comment. Not laughing at the loss or any injuries you may have incurred. (also know that 3 people have died in the last 3 days in my town alone riding a mc. so I speak with reverence and awareness)... but that still struck me as funny.
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Hello! I own a AN400 K5. I just had a thousand dollars worth of work done to the clutch/rollers/belt at the end of last summer. They replaced everything under the sun if I remember right. I am now getting a squealing sound when I take off from a complete stop. This just started happening yesterday. It does not happen all the time, but it is getting more frequent. It sounds to me like a bad bearing, but I am not sure. Has anyone else every had this type of issue?
Yes common problem, but lets sort out exactly which problem that you have. First you say a squeal, then you say " It sounds to me like a bad bearing". So we have to figure out which it is. If it's a squeal, then it is what the previous posters have been saying. But a bad bearing does not squeal, it makes a growling sound. If it does make a growling sound, it will only do it while sitting still and also while taking off, but quit once the clutch engages. so listen to it and see if you detect a growl of a squeal.
Let us know. If you have a growl, then we will take that up at a later time.
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Quantum Mechanic has an excellent do it yourself deglazing process somewhere on here. Wish I could find it, because mine is about due and I forgot what grit sand paper to use, which I believe you put on a flat block to keep things even?
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So after riding some more and listening carefully, it is a squeal type sound, not a grinding sound. I have taken the advise of previous posters and have been taking off hard a lot more to limit the amount of time the clutch is engaging. I have attempted to de-glaze the clutch by holding the brake and giving it some gas for a brief moment. The sound is just getting more and more frequent. I am going to go in and talk to the dealer that did all that work at the end of last summer. I will probably also find out what my pay off cost is and sell this thing for what I owe and get rid of it. I don't have the time, the money or the patience for this, I want something I can just get on and go.
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So after riding some more and listening carefully, it is a squeal type sound, not a grinding sound. I have taken the advise of previous posters and have been taking off hard a lot more to limit the amount of time the clutch is engaging. I have attempted to de-glaze the clutch by holding the brake and giving it some gas for a brief moment. The sound is just getting more and more frequent. I am going to go in and talk to the dealer that did all that work at the end of last summer. I will probably also find out what my pay off cost is and sell this thing for what I owe and get rid of it. I don't have the time, the money or the patience for this, I want something I can just get on and go.
Thanks for paying attention to my previous post. I will try to help you as best as I can. Sorry for your troubles, BUT this thing is easy and fairly inexpensive to work on and fix. You got TOOK in paying $1,000 for that work! But some places charge $1200 or more for the same thing, so it could have been worse. This is why it is so important to be able to do the work yourself. The dealers and shops charge a lot of labor and it runs the price up real high. If you knew how easy this thing is to work on, you would not be having any of this trouble and you could be out enjoying your ride quietly!

I can't say exactly what is causing your problem, but if I took it apart and looked into it, I would know exactly what the problem is and what to do about it. It would be nice if you could take it apart and send us pictures of the inside of it, so that we could see what was wrong and what you needed to do. If it is only squealing, then it must be the clutch or the belt. The clutch could be glazed, and if it's not that there could be a problem in the torque multiplier (driven Plates) that is causing too much slack in the belt and therefore belt slippage and squeal. The Clutch should never glaze if you give it plenty of gas when you take off, and the belt should never slip under any conditions. The shop could have not put something together right, they may not work on Burgmans all the time (don't know about the place you took it, if it's a big busy dealer or not).
Look at this recent thread by Glerin with a Burgman 400 CVT problem, this is the same as yours:
CVT check - to my horror :/

I've got an 08' 400 and it has NEVER squealed, and I have always done all the work on it myself. I've worked on cars and motorcycles all my life. If you don't know how, you could learn, it ain't Rocket Science!
I would not trust anyone to touch my scooter or anything of mine, I do not trust them, especially a dealer (stealer). There is one private scooter shop near me that does good work, and I only use him for tire changing. There is a ton of info on this topic in this site, just use the Search Box to find your answers.
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Unfortunately I do not have any tools or anyplace to work on my Burgman.
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