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I currently have a Honda GW GL 1200. but am wanting to downsize & modernize. I am thinking of a 2006 Burgman 400, My concern is what the Max allowable weight is. For 2up riding which will be limited to short local trips may exceed the bike limit. I and my wife are just over 200 lbs each (210lbs) Any one have any first hand advice for me. Thanks in advance.......Vic.
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I currently have a Honda GW GL 1200. but am wanting to downsize & modernize. I am thinking of a 2006 Burgman 400, My concern is what the Max allowable weight is. For 2up riding which will be limited to short local trips may exceed the bike limit. I and my wife are just over 200 lbs each (210lbs) Any one have any first hand advice for me. Thanks in advance.......Vic.
Vic, my wife and I are in the same weight range, actually a little more. No problem for the 400. Buy it and roll it!

My wife and I have done 150 miles together.

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150 miles? It's half of a standard trip -- did you drop the wife midway or something.
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I currently have a Honda GW GL 1200. but am wanting to downsize & modernize. I am thinking of a 2006 Burgman 400, My concern is what the Max allowable weight is. For 2up riding which will be limited to short local trips may exceed the bike limit. I and my wife are just over 200 lbs each (210lbs) Any one have any first hand advice for me. Thanks in advance.......Vic.
You will have no problem riding the Burgman 400 2 Up. I rode with my wife on the back, me 315 pounds, her 225 pounds, that is 540 lbs, PLUS the Top Box on the back loaded with gear add another 30 pounds, for a TOTAL of 570 pounds. The tire pressures have to be inflated to 26 front, 36 rear for Two Up riding. The Rear Suspension has to be set on the highest setting of 7 (normal setting is 3). I set the rear suspension at 7 and leave it there. No need to ever change it. I rode like this for years with a lot of Two Up riding with no problem. The 400 is a very capable bike, capable of going coast to coast, anywhere you want to go.
I recently bought an 06 Burgman 650 Standard with 10,000 miles on it, and have been riding it for 3 months. The 650 is real nice, but I still have the 400. I took the 400 for a ride across town yesterday, and it still amazes me how good it runs. As soon as I slide onto the seat I say how easy that is (lower seat). then when I take off I feel the lighter weight when I'm stopped at a light or parking lot. It's such a sweet ride, makes me wonder why I really need the 650. The only thing the 650's got going for it is that it is a little faster. The most noticeable part is that the 650 takes off much faster off the line. But the 400 is no slouch once it moves out past 50 feet!
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The 400 will have a little problem with that amount of weight, but will handle it fine. You will notice it's not so quick 2-up, especially coming off a GW. If you do a lot of riding with your wife, consider the 650. But for the occasional pillion ride, the 400 will be fine.

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Oh I forgot to mention that I put the 16 gram sliders in my variator (very important), which helps a whole lot with the take off when riding 2 Up. For me the 16 grams sliders are perfect for me and my aggressive style of riding, IMHO.
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Don't understand the concern for load capacity. My '86 Goldwing Aspencade had a rather lower load capacity. But then it had a lot more power.
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For me the 16 grams sliders are perfect for me and my aggressive style of riding, IMHO.
The OEM clutch is not quite for aggressive riding style.

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The OEM clutch is not quite for aggressive riding style.
The OEM Clutch worked good enough for me. I know the Dr Pulley HIT Clutch is better, but I just could not spend that much money on the Clutch. I never had any problem with the OEM Clutch, other than mine burned up at 25,000 miles (probably due to the poor thing trying to get my very heavy weight moving uphill). There were a lot of times that I had to START off from a light going UPHILL, and that would really stress and over heat the clutch. When I replaced the clutch, I went with the OEM Clutch because the cost was much less (still not cheap). and the EOM Clutch performed fine, and still is 12,000 miles later. I had to replace the OEM Clutch $145 + Clutch Bell $178 * shipping $20 = about $343. The Bell would have had to be replaced no matter which clutch I put in, as the Bell was completely burned blue and deeply scored to Dickens on the inside.

StgRV - The concern about LOAD CAPACITY is important because a vehicle can only carry a certain amount of weight safely, and can cause the suspension to bottom out. You cant ride the bike with your suspension bottomed out. On my 400, I set my rear suspension as tight as I can get it ()setting #7) and inflate the tires to the max, to support the heavy load that I mentioned above in my previous post. With that much weight, the suspension is near bottomed out, but not bottomed out. On the 400, the engine pivots and tilts down and the muffler rises in the rear as more weight is put on the bike. So when I am riding the 400 2 Up and fully loaded the Muffler is quite high in the back, but suspension is not bottomed out and does not bottom out in normal riding, but it would if I hit a big pothole. So I would say that the 570 pounds of load on the 400 would be the VERY MAXIMUM that that bike can carry, which is way over the recommended limit (which is why I bought a 650).
The 400 is am amazing bike with amazing capabilities.
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#1
2009 Suzuki Specs.
400 GVWR 910
Curb weight 474 (standard) = 436 payload
Curb weight 489 (ABS) = 421 Payload

650 GVWR 999
Curb Weight (standard) 593 = 403 Payload
Curb Weight (ABS) 611 = 388 Payload

#2

Find the GVWR plate, minus the dry weight (405) minus about 45 lbs. for liquids should give you the payload. 2005 400 Specs.

Specs from an '04 (same model)
GVWR Front 280
GVWR Rear 580
GVWR 860

So, assuming the '04 specs are correct, 860 - 450 ish = 410 payload.

'07 and later
400 GVWR 910
Curb weight 474 (standard) = 436 payload
Curb weight 489 (ABS) = 421 Payload

Don't forget to adjust, for any other stuff you might be carrying aboard with you. That could add another 10-20 lbs., reducing the payload for people by that amount.

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