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post #11 of 17 (permalink) Old 01-18-2017, 09:48 PM
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Darkside --- on my second one. Get about 22,000 miles on 'em.
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post #12 of 17 (permalink) Old 01-19-2017, 08:58 AM
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Just ordered my third annual set of City Grips (Michelin) for the IceBurg. I buy them in sets (1 front, 2 rear) that will cover about a year of riding. I don't ride in a style that would make marginal tire differences apparent. City Grips are round (a plus), pretty airtight (a plus) and last about 10K miles in the back, 20K in front. Before settling on City Grips I had Hoops and Michelin PP. Never had any particularly bad experiences with either. But, at the end of the day, I'm not riding them now.

As an aside, I also use Ultraseal in my scooter tires. I had a spell for a while where I was replacing my tires more from punctures than wear. Ultraseal seems to have solved that. Others use different products, I went with the product I did based on the recommendations of a member of this forum. It has been all that he said. Disclaimer: I have no vested interest whatsoever in Ultraseal. I'm justpassing along my happy customer experience.

For anyone considering City Grips at both ends, you have to go with 120/70 - 14 in the ffront as CGs don't come in 120/80 - 14
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As for Darksiding, as every tire change approaches, I go through a period of reconsidering this decision. 20K+ out of a rear tire is pretty enticing. People who have done it are pretty enthusiastic. Seating the bead and having to figure out what tire I can find that will fit acceptably have kept me out of darksiding to this point. Besides, having to change 3 tires a year at least keeps me up on the technique which is probably the most important aspect of tire changing. Proper technique and the process is pretty simple, poor technique and it's pretty near impossible.

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Just ordered my third annual set of City Grips (Michelin) for the IceBurg. I buy them in sets (1 front, 2 rear) that will cover about a year of riding. I don't ride in a style that would make marginal tire differences apparent. City Grips are round (a plus), pretty airtight (a plus) and last about 10K miles in the back, 20K in front. Before settling on City Grips I had Hoops and Michelin PP. Never had any particularly bad experiences with either. But, at the end of the day, I'm not riding them now.

As an aside, I also use Ultraseal in my scooter tires. I had a spell for a while where I was replacing my tires more from punctures than wear. Ultraseal seems to have solved that. Others use different products, I went with the product I did based on the recommendations of a member of this forum. It has been all that he said. Disclaimer: I have no vested interest whatsoever in Ultraseal. I'm justpassing along my happy customer experience.
Interesting stuff. Why do you prefer the City Grips to the Power Pures? Better life, maybe?

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In my experience the PP were prone to pick up screws and nails. I replaced all of my PPs (2 - rear and 1 front) before end of life due to punctures. Might've been just bad luck. Ultraseal would solve that issue. I did notice they seemed more sensitive to grooving (subject of a pretty highly charged thread by Daboo a while back). I did notice it somewhat and I see a lot of grooved pavement around Tampa. Wasn't a deal killer but it certainly didn't keep me eager to buy. I never noticed any improvement from the 'dual compound' materials in the tread but, as I said before, I do not ride in a fashion that I would notice a marginal change. I've expounded at some length in other threads but the gist is: Hoops wear really unevenly in my experience. Michelin PP are much better for even wear but seem to track a little oddly on grooved pavement. Michelin CG's wear evenly and seem to have less sensitivity to grooving. I get CGs for about $150 for my annual set shipped to my door. As I mentioned earlier, I just made my annual maintenance buy for 2017 - Tires - 2 rear, 1 front, Brake Pads - 2 front, 1 rear, 5 filters and a set of filter O-rings, 1 drive belt. Not sure if this going to be a sheave year or not but that can wait until required.

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Thanks for the info. We have some grooved expressways around here, although I haven't spent much time on them since I've installed the Power Pure on the back. I'll make sure to do so once the weather warms a bit, although I must confess that expressway riding does not constitute a large portion of my mileage.

The puncture issue concerns me more. I've never picked up so much stuff in my car tires as I do living here, so I'm not going to be happy about getting punctures on Ingrid. I never had any punctures with the original Hoops, so it will be interesting to see what happens this riding season on the new PP. Looks like the Ultraseal is worth checking out, too.

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I'll throw in my 2 cents worth on the tire sealant, I use and recommend RIDE-ON because it both seals and balances the tires. Available on Bikebandit.com for the cheapest price.

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