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$24 Belt from China?

Well, I did it- ordered the $24 belt from China.





It arrived yesterday and I installed it. It says "Mitsuboshi MBLSC045" and "Made in Japan". It seems like the same material as the original belt and it measures the same length with slightly more width- my worn-but-not-worn-out original was 21.8 mm and the new one is 22.4 mm.

The good news:
The ride is fine- no funny smells or squeals. Works better than my other belt- slightly lower RPM's as expected and smooth application of power. No problems. Works like a new OEM belt.

The bad news:
I don't really trust it. I'll be removing the cover to inspect it very 500 miles, so I'll get a handle on its longevity and see if it has any problems well before they happen. This is all in the name of science...

The "made in Japan" gives me pause, as does the "MBLSC045", which seems to be the part number of a belt from a TMax 500 scooter. But the TMax has a wider longer belt than our burgies. Maybe it's just mislabeled overstock? I wish I knew the story.

So hang on- I'll re-post as the belt gets more miles. Here's the link in case anyone wants to duplicate my experiment (or take a chance on an unknown). They have 947 of them left

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-...523306506.html
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It arrived yesterday and I installed it. It says "Mitsuboshi MBLSC045" and "Made in Japan". It seems like the same material as the original belt and it measures the same length with slightly more width- my worn-but-not-worn-out original was 21.8 mm and the new one is 22.4 mm.
Isn't the belt thickness supposed to be 25.1 mm? Service limit of 24?

What kind of rpms are you pulling? What's your rpm at 60 mph?

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Isn't the belt thickness supposed to be 25.1 mm? Service limit of 24?

What kind of rpms are you pulling? What's your rpm at 60 mph?

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Since he posted this in the pre 2007 forum I assume that is what he has. The manual on the 2003 to 2006 shows standard width to be 21.85 mm and minimum width to be 20.85 mm.

But that also says that if his old belt measured 21.8 mm it was far from worn out. Of course he might have a pre 2003 and I don't know what the spec for that belt is.

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Since he posted this in the pre 2007 forum I assume that is what he has. The manual on the 2003 to 2006 shows standard width to be 21.85 mm and minimum width to be 20.85 mm.

But that also says that if his old belt measured 21.8 mm it was far from worn out. Of course he might have a pre 2003 and I don't know what the spec for that belt is.
Ah, yes, of course. Thought that belt looked a little thin (in comparison to the k7+)

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Yeah, I have a K4 AN400. It seems that the belts are 21.8 mm wide until they're worn out- they just get progressively more trapezoidal than hexagonal, if that makes sense- The "vee" part wears until it reaches the top, then it gets thinner rapidly. My original belt didn't have much flat left even though it measured OK in width. The wear effectively makes the belt longer, which makes the RPM's for a given speed and load higher.

My 60 MPH RPMs were in the neighborhood of 5500 and still are about 5500 (I have DP Sliders installed, 4 15 gram and 4 18 gram), although it *feels* just a little lower than before- maybe 50 RPM?

After some searching, the MBLSC042 is the belt for '98-'02 (carburetor) burgmen. Maybe they're mislabeled units that entered the grey market? 2's are very similar to 5's if you have a touch of dyslexia or aren't very familiar with the Arabic numbers...
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After some searching, the MBLSC042 is the belt for '98-'02 (carburetor) burgmen. Maybe they're mislabeled units that entered the grey market? 2's are very similar to 5's if you have a touch of dyslexia or aren't very familiar with the Arabic numbers...
Hi Squeazel,
I've sourced a part from China. In Asia they released the Burgman under the name " Skywave". Still waiting for the part to arrive which was 70% cheaper than anywhere else I found it. I'm eagerly awaiting your updates on the belt as am likley to also give it a go.
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When I rebuilt my engine, I sourced the oversized piston/rings/pin from China as well. It looked like it was well made- not forged (the original was not forged either), but the machining looked good and the sizes (ring slots, pin diameter, skirt diameter, ring gap at bore, everything was right on spec), were right on as close as I could measure. It has been running in my bike now for a few hundred miles, with no issues. We'll see if it lasts. I may be riding a time bomb
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When I rebuilt my engine, I sourced the oversized piston/rings/pin from China as well. It looked like it was well made- not forged (the original was not forged either), but the machining looked good and the sizes (ring slots, pin diameter, skirt diameter, ring gap at bore, everything was right on spec), were right on as close as I could measure. It has been running in my bike now for a few hundred miles, with no issues. We'll see if it lasts. I may be riding a time bomb
Haha! Unless its Italian aren't most parts made in China anyway and then rebranded? I'm going to get one and keep it as a spare, am not sure the condition of my belt yet am getting all my bits together to do it all at once.
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whats's made in Japan, is not from China.
but this belt..is fake, so it can say it's made in Japan, or anywhere else, you will only get problems getting one. always thinking, will it break here, or 200 miles away from home? how much it will cost me to get the bike home, how much for a good belt..
can i leave the town today, or better ride 5000 miles around my house and see how will it be
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