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post #1 of 50 (permalink) Old 06-14-2014, 05:33 AM Thread Starter
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I have some engine oil protectant treatment bottles sitting in my garage and I haven't gotten a chance to use them yet. However, I've been reading some good reviews on engine oil additives and treatment. For example, there is a product called lube guard engine oil protectant that "reduces friction and oil consumption" there is another product by Valvoline that also is a engine oil protectant. It reduces wear and tear on motor oil and is used to supplement our engine oil from overheating and helps it disperse heat better. Has anyone had any good luck with these? I am doing research on these and will be adding some in my Burgman 400 the next oil change. If I use these motor oil protectants does this mean I can go for longer runs without having to change the oil since it slows the oil from wearing out? Opinions? I wonder how much I should put in with the next oil change

http://www.lubegard.com/~/C-306/LUBE...Oil+Protectant

FOR USE IN ALL DIESEL
AND GASOLINE ENGINES

Reduces oil and fuel consumption!
Optimizes engine horsepower and performance
Protects and extends oil life by 30%
Improves fuel economy by reducing friction in your engine
Reduces wear on metal components, thus increasing part life
Improves anti-friction and anti-wear properties of ALL major oil brands to meet requirements of ALL vehicles, including older and high performance models
Eliminates lifter and other objectionable noise on startup, especially in cold weather
Ensures smoother running engines
Reduces hot engine oil temperatures
Gives improvement in friction and wear performance over major brands of motor oil
Blends with ALL motor oils currently produced, including API; SJ, SJ/EC, CG- 4, CH-4, SE, SF, SG, SI, CC, CD, CE, SL, SD, SM and CF motor oils
Helps reduce smoking by restoring flexibility to valve stem seals for improved sealing, also providing outstanding upper cylinder lubricity as it frees up sticking rings
Inhibits oxidation and extends engine oil life (see TFOUT test results below)
Also use to extend the life of small 4 cycle engines such as; lawn maintenance equipment, motorcycles, snow mobiles, etc.


Valvoline engine oil
treatment http://www.valvolineeurope.com/engli.../oil_treatment

Valvoline Oil Treatment contains a polymer that increases the viscosity index of engine oil, making the oil more viscous (thicker) at high temperatures without increasing viscosity proportionally at low-temperatures. Engine oil fortified with Oil Treatment still becomes less viscous (thinner) as temperature increases and more viscous (thicker) as temperature decreases, but at a slower rate than non-treated oil. Oil Treatment increases oil viscosity at high temperatures, which helps reduce blow-by and oil burning by helping piston rings form a better seal. Oil Treatment also contains an extreme-pressure additive that helps reduce engine wear.

>> Minimizes oil consumption
>> Reduces friction
>> Improves piston ring seal and compression
>> Increases lubricity
>> Improves viscosity index of oil
>> Protects engines from extreme-pressure wear
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Don't put any additives in your oil. Suzuki recommends a specific oil type and it does not indorse the use of any friction modifiers. An oil change is cheap money and when done on schedule is sufficient for proper lubrication. The engine is not exactly a racing engine built to high performance tolerances. It is a scooter motor with about 35 horsepower that delivers sufficient performance using un-modified engine oil.

Probably not what you want to hear as a first response. I have to ask what did you expect to achieve by adding modifiers to your oil?
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>>Don't put any additives in your oil<<

Ditto that.... don't waste your money.
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I have had many engines, and have never worn one out (and I have tried) running conventional or synthetic oil out of the bottle.

This includes WOT single cyl engines, off road 4x4 high heat and slow speeds, multiple cars/trucks, never lost one ever. Two were at 200,000 miles or more. The vehicle or other components will wear out before the engine, unless it is a Dodge!

What they said 100% don't do it.

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>>Don't put any additives in your oil<<

Ditto that.... don't waste your money.
Dittos again. Our bikes don't want it or need it.

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No additive has ever been proven to work, by the Society of automotive engineers.

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What shall I do with the engine oil protectant that is sitting in my garage then? Surely it shouldn't go to waste!

@ above poster, Chevron techron (fuel additive) is actually proven to work cleaning valves and carbon. It's got a five star rating on Amazon from hundreds of users
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What shall I do with the engine oil protectant that is sitting in my garage then? Surely it shouldn't go to waste!

@ above poster, Chevron techron (fuel additive) is actually proven to work cleaning valves and carbon. It's got a five star rating on Amazon from hundreds of users
I recently used the Techron in the 13,300 mile 2008 Burgman I purchased last fall . When I pulled it off the rack after going through the bike from stem to stern , it idled a little on the rough side and out in the street it would flutter a bit on take off if I gave it to much throttle . The bike had been sitting for a while and when I got it there wasn't much gas so I filled it up right away , I have no idea how old the gas was in the tank when I got it . I ran that gas out and there was still a rough idle so I bought a bottle of Techron and added it to the next 2 tanks . After the first tank full it was pretty much perfect but I added the Techron to another just for good measure . That did it and now it runs perfect , was it the Techron or the gas or it just needed to be run ? I don't know for sure but I would definitely try it again .

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The term "Snake Oil" comes to mind when I hear about this stuff. A good quality oil will all ready have the additives in it needed for todays engines.
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There are lots of good engine oil additives that have been proven to do exactly what they say on the tin. German engineering firm TUV who test enormous amounts of stuff for the motor industry confirm this as does the MAA. However, there are several categories that these fall into but the two main ones are oil index modifiers to improve viscosity: good for use in worn engines. And, friction modifiers to reduce engine internal friction, and these are split into two groups. Those that modify the oil itself and those that modify the bearing surfaces of the actual metal in the engine. There are also combinations of the two of course with other stuff in as well. All work very well. Can be a minefield to sort out which one you actually want.

For those that think that's rubbish, remember that all oils contain additives. That's how you get different oils to reach different specs. And of course these are added at the factory to be make up a good all round oil fit for purpose it's designed for. Some are fully syn which have fantastic friction reducing properties. So much so that if you use it in a new or very low mileage engine, it simply won't run in or finish conforming. Higher viscosity oils use extra index improves, just the same as in the tins of stuff you buy at the store to put in a worn engine. Nothing snake oil about any of them. As an ex-tech and engine design and development engineer, it was my job to know this stuff as we talked to the oil company's frequently to get specialist oil for specific engines and sometimes to design our own oils and additives. It's no surprise that many engines in industry must have additive added to them to make the engines last.

So don't dismiss them, even if most engines these days don't need them. But you can further improve fuel economy and power output if you choose the right one. That's proven.
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