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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old 08-28-2011, 01:22 PM Thread Starter
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Definition of a Motorcycle

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...motorcycle.htm

All include "two or three wheels in contact with the ground." My understanding of the tryke conversion kits available for the Burgman is that the drive train (including rear wheel) remains intact and adds two wheels as "outriggers."

The question then become "Does this turn a Burgman into an automobile?"

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Re: Definition of a Motorcycle

If both of the "outriggers" (course - if it was a bicycle, you'd just call them "training wheels") are in contact with the pavement, it would indeed seem to test the legal definition. The real answer is, of course, "whatever your local DMV says it is".

The more interesting question is: If they demand it be licensed as an auto - what about all the legally required equipment that must be on a car (windshield wipers, seat belts etc)?

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Re: Definition of a Motorcycle

In UK it would be classed as a 'Quadricycle', and would have to have all rear wheels braked! Don't ask how I know, but it was an expensive mistake.
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Re: Definition of a Motorcycle

I supose it depends, as always, on who writes the definitions & rules, which, too often are folks not very familiar with the real world application of same. At least thats the way we found it in Utah a couple of years ago, when confronting the established motorcyle definitions and rules, with our Can-Am Spyder!

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In UK it would be classed as a 'Quadricycle', and would have to have all rear wheels braked! Don't ask how I know, but it was an expensive mistake.
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Re: Definition of a Motorcycle

According to the most recent California DMV Motorcycle handbook, "A motor-driven cycle is: A motorcycle with a 149 cc or less engine size." It also says, "A motorcycle: Has a seat or saddle for the rider and is designed to travel on not more than three wheels." So... my Burgman is larger than 149 cc and is designed to travel on not more than three wheels. That means it is a Motorcycle!

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Just because the NHTSA says a 3-wheeled thing is a motorcycle does not make it so--it remains a tricycle.

Then there are those silly "trike" kits that leave the drive wheel in place. Worst of all worlds IMHO. Just last week we pushed a fellow with an AN 650 and training wheels out of a bit of a quagmire at a local "watering hole" when uneven ground left the drive wheel "high and dry". What the heck is that thing any way, a "quadcylce", "quike", ???

My maternal grandfather always asked the gathered grandchildren "If you call a cow's tail a leg how many legs does a cow have?"; he would then tell us that calling it a leg does not make it so...

Motor[bi]cycles have two wheels, it's that simple, and that makes our "scooters" "bikes" by any interpretation...

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I see others have the same sick sense of humor I do (ie. outriggers & training wheels which are good descriptions btw) but what I did not sense was the outright outrage at the efforts to become so super defined and PC by our "Big Brother". I do understand that home made (or non manufacturer fabricated) "trikes" are an issue to define (anything from a VW bug powerplant to rocket engine) to the state DMV's and Insurance agencies and in truth kinda stretch the definition of MC . . . but why can't a simple commonsense definition apply to the issue? For the alternative designs, use the simple identifier - modified.

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Re: Definition of a Motorcycle

There is a local gal that rides a Piaggio MP3 with the outriggers it has five wheels. and probably handles like a shopping cart

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