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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 05-10-2017, 10:22 AM Thread Starter
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it happened again

as I was coming home from the gym this morning, a nice curvy road through a cow pasture, up ahead, flashing lights. when I got there , at the middle of the curve is a side road, on the side road is a pickup truck with a dent in the passenger side, just past the side road is a wrecker with a sports bike on the bed, and in the road a big round reddish spot, cops cleaning up debris and in answer to my thumbs up or down, I got a thumbs down.
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It can suck...but it is not completely without its merits. I'd have saved a TON of money on taxes and student loans had I died at 13 instead of miraculously surviving.
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Sounds like another left turn in front of a bike...again.
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Don't know the facts here - and not trying to blame the rider. But it is a good opportunity to talk about risk mitigation and anticipation. Some scenarios:

1). Rider never saw the truck, but DID have an opportunity to see the truck (straight, flat road).

2). Rider never saw the truck, but DID NOT have an opportunity to see the truck (hill, curve, obstruction, etc.).

3). Rider saw the truck, anticipated nothing, took no risk mitigation.

4). Rider saw the truck, anticipated truck pulling out, but took no risk mitigation.

5). Rider saw truck, anticipated truck pulling out, took risk mitigation, but failed to mitigate the risk.

Which is most likely? Here is the OP's description:

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...at the middle of the curve is a side road, on the side road is a pickup truck with a dent in the passenger side...
Based on that description, it sure sounds like scenario #2. So how might rider have saved himself?

Seeing he was approaching a blind curve, he could have anticipated anything behind around the corner, especially on "nice curvy road through a cow pasture." Maybe a cow in the road, a tractor, who knows? Good move to take? Slow the **** down on blind curves. Maybe he did - and he still hit the truck. If so, he probably could have slowed down some more. Nevertheless - it is a good reminder that while it may be fun to fly through the curves - with respect to a blind curve, slowing down is never really a bad idea.

In fairness to the truck driver - on such a curve, it is entirely possible he never had an opportunity to see the biker either. Difference is, he can only sit there for so long before making his left turn or pulling out - and he is going to already be going slow when he does. In some situations, there isn't much he can do, especially compared to what someone coming up on a blind corner can do.
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My theory is if you put yourself in harm's way often enough you'll get harmed ,..........or killed . Going through a green light at 50mph with the assumption no one is going to run the red light , going into a blind turn to fast with the assumption there is nothing there , tail gating etc. etc , will eventually catch up with you .

Speed & Stupid Kills .

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Same thing almost happened to me last night, but I was lucky to not be going fast. In my town a side street (2 lane) crosses a main road (4 lane), each side street has a stop sign. There was a car on the other side (green Kia Soul, Green is my unlucky color) with left turn blinker on. I pull up no turn signal because I'm going straight across to the other side, continuing on the side street. We both wait a long time for the heavy traffic to finally clear. I have the "Right of Way", to I proceed to go straight across, BUT this JERK immediately turns left in front of me. If I wasn't expecting it and quick on my brakes, I would have got run over. Fortunately I stopped just short of the collision, I wont say what I did next. Anyway, if you have the "Right of Way" don't necessarily take it. Be ready for the unexpected. And of course when approaching an intersection, always slow down, let off the gas, and cover the brakes.

Sorry for that poor fellow. My prayers are with him. Course it's too late now.
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Its not usually the speed, it is the sudden stop that does it.


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Saturday I had a city bus pull out in front of me on a service road before a stop light in an intersection. I anticipated she might pull out as I was coming up along side a column of stationary cars in the center lane. She did not disappoint me. I would have been in the right (dead right). Its just good that no one was riding my tail.
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Condolences to his family and friends

Not to make a sweeping generalization, but you can watch tons of You Tube rides, via helmet cam, where the SPORT BIKE riders:

speed
weave
pass on double yellow (my personal peeve, especially when traffic is moving at the speed limit, it's called a SPEED LIMIT for a reason)

Especially speed.

Blind hill? You'd better slow down
Blind curve? Slow down

The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.
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A watch a lot of YouTube MC videos. A lot of them get all ragey for no reason. Most of the time, it is the MC rider being an out an out ******* and WAY over-reacting. Can't help but wonder if they would act the same way if not for the camera and YouTube hits, but frankly, a lot of THOSE guys deserve to have their asses run over.


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