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07 400 previous owner said rear wheel locked up

Hello everyone first post. I just pick up a 07 burgman 400 with only 3,800 miles. The guy I bought it from said 4 years ago he was riding doing about 60 mph and he states the rear wheel locked up and made him lay it down, he said when the cop picked up the bike it rolled just fine. He was too scared to even touch it so it sat for 4 years. I picked it up for $400 with a clear title and brought it home cleaned the fuel injector drained the tank and thru a battery in it and it rides like new. My worry is what mystery thing made the wheel lock up. I changed out the final drive oil and nothing seemed odd with the oil. The only thing that seemed out of place is the clutch bell looks like it got really hot. But you can tell from the pics it isn't from the outside in like slipping clutch pads but from the inside out. And yet the bearings on the cover and the clutch assembly seem fine and I don't hear any noises when I spin the wheel and it spins freely. I have ridden it a few miles with no issues but it takes the fun away wondering if it's going to lock up on me. Any advice would be huge.
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It Sounds like a normal drive train, the Clutch Bell will get blue from heat. This comes from making slow starts and slipping the clutch a lot. It is best when taking off from a start to generally give it plenty of gas and get up to the speed you want then slack off the gas. This will save wear and heat on the clutch. It sounds to me like the rider went down because of application of too much rear brake. IDK if the previous owner was a green driver or not familiar with scooters. Sometime motorcycle riders habits get them in a bit of trouble on the scooters, because they squeeze the clutch, and WHAM, it not the clutch, but the rear brake instead. It takes a little getting used to. You changed the Final Drive oil, and it looked good, you spun the back wheel and no noise, so I would discount mechanical problems and blame the previous owners misfortune on Rider error. Make sure the tires have the proper air pressure, have tread and are not cracked or old. Be careful when driving at night, as you may only have one headlight on with low beams.
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It Sounds like a normal drive train, the Clutch Bell will get blue from heat. This comes from making slow starts and slipping the clutch a lot. It is best when taking off from a start to generally give it plenty of gas and get up to the speed you want then slack off the gas. This will save wear and heat on the clutch. It sounds to me like the rider went down because of application of too much rear brake. IDK if the previous owner was a green driver or not familiar with scooters. Sometime motorcycle riders habits get them in a bit of trouble on the scooters, because they squeeze the clutch, and WHAM, it not the clutch, but the rear brake instead. It takes a little getting used to. You changed the Final Drive oil, and it looked good, you spun the back wheel and no noise, so I would discount mechanical problems and blame the previous owners misfortune on Rider error. Make sure the tires have the proper air pressure, have tread and are not cracked or old. Be careful when driving at night, as you may only have one headlight on with low beams.
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That sounds plausable to me.
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just for giggles after sitting for a while and a possible though not probable problem, I would have the rear wheel bearing s cleaned and regreased with the proper lube, and if you have any squeezers and twisters and whackers and shiny things , do it yourself, or at least DEMAND proof that proper type grease was used by mechanics who did the work, some people believe any type grease is good enough, it ain'nt so. and I'll bet there are more than one examples of grease fires because of it,

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I have witnessed two guys ride there motorcycles with there left hand over the clutch lever. So maybe that's what that guy did. I would do it when in tight situations but they did it all the time.

I rode in a car with one of them and noticed he always had his left foot on the brake pedal as well.
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I have witnessed two guys ride there motorcycles with there left hand over the clutch lever. So maybe that's what that guy did. I would do it when in tight situations but they did it all the time.

I rode in a car with one of them and noticed he always had his left foot on the brake pedal as well.
Left foot is the shifter . . . unless it was a really old European bike

Ah! Edit. Left foot over the brake in a car. Got it.

But I'd also bet on driver error. Maybe he was used to a standard transmission motorcycle and unconsciously grabbed for the "clutch." Then when it started sliding he unconsciously held the "clutch" in.
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The PROBLEM is that he LAID IT DOWN DOING 60 MPH!........I bet that took a LOT of the value off it!!

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just for giggles after sitting for a while and a possible though not probable problem, I would have the rear wheel bearing s cleaned and regreased with the proper lube, and if you have any squeezers and twisters and whackers and shiny things , do it yourself, or at least DEMAND proof that proper type grease was used by mechanics who did the work, some people believe any type grease is good enough, it ain'nt so. and I'll bet there are more than one examples of grease fires because of it,
mikey, there are no rear wheel bearings on the 400 Burgman.

I think the most likely explanation is the one mentioned above where the rider applied the rear brake in error. However, it's worth noting that if the engine seizes (albeit temporarily) the rear wheel can lock up. It happened to me during a ride on a Honda Silverwing 600 a few years back. The clutch doesn't always let go as quickly as you'd imagine and a short skid resulted before I coasted to a halt. I was travelling at 60 mph, but accelerating. Looking at the OP's photo of the clutch bell, it's blue colour is not heat related. It's the engineers paint from the factory. The clutch looks fine in that respect.
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I stand corrected and smarter, thanks, surely there is some type of lube back there ?

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