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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 04-11-2017, 02:43 PM Thread Starter
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What have I done?

I replaced my battery just over a year ago.Recent months have seen me ride a load of really short journeys. Had a few difficult to starts in the mornings and charged the battery and all fine and then again and then another time. One morning short on time I jumped it from the car. No probs. Second time I stupidly started the car and let it run while connected to try and give it a boost. Noticed an odd smell and a bit of white smoke coming up through the handle bars. Seems I've cooked it with too many amps but does anyone know if I may have damaged the regulator? Battery is no leaks but assuming it's now dead so ordered new one but am worried I've done some other damage? Any advice greatly appreciated. Burg is 2000 pre injection model. Thanks!!
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First off, you've cooked something. Never supposed to have the car running when jumping your scooter.
Unlikely that it is the battery. If I were a betting man, I might place a small wager on the ignition switch. Otherwise, you may be looking at the ECM. Good luck, we may be here a while.

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First off, you've cooked something. Never supposed to have the car running when jumping your scooter.
Unlikely that it is the battery. If I were a betting man, I might place a small wager on the ignition switch. Otherwise, you may be looking at the ECM. Good luck, we may be here a while.
Hold my hands up on the running car whilst jumping very silly. The smell was like burning plastic/electric. As the battery doesn't seem to be holding a charge for long I suspected the RR and with this smoke? Would an ignition switch smoke like that? Bike starts fine if I jump (not running) or charge battery over night but now have that smell ever time. Typical as the weather is now nice in the UK I wanna be out. My own fault I know : (
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Not sure where the RR is located. I always had the impression that it was on the side/under the seat. East enough to locate it, just follow the wire(s) up from the stator assy. RR is always a good choice for a nice persistent odor and new battery not holding a charge. As for the ignition switch being a problem, only took that because of the location of the wisps. The wisps could also be the result of melting insulation off wires.

If the scooter runs OK then I would not assume anything really terrible happened (although a new RR could be unpleasant). I've heard stories of scooters getting "wonky" after jumping incorrectly. You can check the RR pretty easily with an ohmmeter.

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I'm sorry for your troubles OP, but I will use this as an opportunity to extol the virtues of having one of those lithium battery based jumpstart devices. Beats jumping from a running car every time.

I like the Car Rover device. Highly recommend.

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The wisps could also be the result of melting insulation off wires.
This is my guess also. You have smoked some wiring insulation and that's it... IF you're lucky! Go over the bike and find it.

Been there done that on a Chinese scooter. I learned my lesson. In my case I burned up wires going to the starter switch on the handle bars and the entire thing had to be replaced. So that's where I would start looking for damage. NOTE. it was not where you could see it near the switch area, it was wiring down under the handlebars and into the plastics.

After paying someone that knew the ins and outs of Chinese scooters, he was able to re-wire a new switch, clean the carb, and re-install all of the plastics. . It ended up costing me 250.00, which was cheap and NOT worth it for Chinese junk. Had it been a Burgman it would have been money well spent.

If it were me, I would remove all plastics and replace any damage that can be seen. Then install a new battery and hope for the best.

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I'm sorry for your troubles OP, but I will use this as an opportunity to extol the virtues of having one of those lithium battery based jumpstart devices. Beats jumping from a running car every time.

I like the Car Rover device. Highly recommend.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N4BPEOH..._GOu7ybAT705T0
So true. I've been carrying one of those for over a year but finally used it a month ago when a young pregnant girl with a slew of kids was stranded in a parking lot with a dead battery on her Dodge. The little Lithium jumper worked like a charm.

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This is my guess also. You have smoked some wiring insulation and that's it... IF you're lucky! Go over the bike and find it. Been there done that on a Chinese scooter. I learned my lesson. In my case I burned up wires going to the starter switch on the handle bars and the entire thing had to be replaced. So that's where I would start looking for damage. NOTE. it was not where you could see it near the switch area, it was wiring down under the handlebars and into the plastics.
If it were me, I would remove all plastics and replace any damage that can be seen. Then install a new battery and hope for the best.

Thanks all. Have ordered a replacement RR anyway (second hand on flea bay) and when taking apart the front end to get to it will have a good look for any burnt out wires. Sparky type jobs are not my favourite at all!! Appreciate the advice. Other than this have had a trouble free winter with the Burg.
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usually once the smoke leaks out of an electrical device, you have to push it all back in, or it won't work the same later, hopefully yours was just a leetle smoke leak and can be fixed with electrical tape which has extra smoke in it, (the black kind )
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usually once the smoke leaks out of an electrical device, you have to push it all back in, or it won't work the same later, hopefully yours was just a leetle smoke leak and can be fixed with electrical tape which has extra smoke in it, (the black kind )

I use Black tape for BLACK smoke. RED for Red smoke. Ya gots to know your smoke.

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