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That's why I chose bulbs with passive cooling via braided copper loops, which can be shaped to fit the available space in the lampshell.
Yes, I think you have the right thinking, makes much more sense. If I go LED, I would do the same.
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For that kind of wattage and luminosity there're alternative options, e.g. with the fan in front of the chip:

It's a neat bulb, but look at the LOW LUMINS! Not very BRIGHT. Just better to get them with the flexible braided Heatsinks on the back, IMHO.

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What good is the fan going to do inside the headlamp?
IMHO non-moving parts are better.


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What good is the fan going to do inside the headlamp?


It provides even roasting of whatever is inside silly.

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It was originally referred to the specific bulb characteristics only -- i.e. no more than 25 W. For that kind of power, the cooling should be adequate. Me doesn't think of passive one as a better option. So, the key was - for that kind of wattage and luminosity However it immediately became an object of criticism, one said it's not enough light, the other blame cooling. As if i was trying to sell this bulb to someone.

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Flexible Thermal Straps is a known way of sinking heat
Anyone who has burnt his fingers holding a heavy gauge cable while soldering a connector with a 60 watt iron will agree on copper's heat conducting abilities.



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Conductivity means copper will heat quick, so will the antifreeze in engine. But after couple minutes of idling the thermostat will turn that fan on. Lights are supposed to work for hours, what is going to be turned on.

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Have been following along awhile now and finally motivated myself to do my own LED installation. Though a bit differently as I had wanted to do many years ago with a projector installation using LED lamps. So now I've got one . Well the first variant anyway to try out. Installed a set of Morimoto Mini H1 projectors to replace the cheaper ebay specials I had in there for my HID kit. With a shroud though they barely fit in the headlight housing using the aiming screws for positioning but having a projector with a more standard bulb size helps for bulb replacement in the future. And with the projector I have more control over the pattern and light scatter since there isn't much of one with the horizontal cut off with the projector shutter. Optical clarity is better with this one as well.

The LED lamps I chose themselves are a passively cooled type made with a copper sinking pad on die to an aluminum chassis and fins. Link
They are thermally controlled to reduce output power when overheated but have yet to see them dim on me while moving but guess that may be determined on a hot summer night or sitting still long enough. Intensity wise they are a 3600lm set (according to the description) and 4300k color temp. A little dimmer than my HIDs and need to do a little more tweaking to line up the cutoff so it's even but they do throw the light down the road.

I'll try them out for awhile but may go with an actively cooled model with higher intensity such as this one Link
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Have been following along awhile now and finally motivated myself to do my own LED installation. Though a bit differently as I had wanted to do many years ago with a projector installation using LED lamps. So now I've got one . Well the first variant anyway to try out. Installed a set of Morimoto Mini H1 projectors to replace the cheaper ebay specials I had in there for my HID kit. With a shroud though they barely fit in the headlight housing using the aiming screws for positioning but having a projector with a more standard bulb size helps for bulb replacement in the future. And with the projector I have more control over the pattern and light scatter since there isn't much of one with the horizontal cut off with the projector shutter. Optical clarity is better with this one as well.

The LED lamps I chose themselves are a passively cooled type made with a copper sinking pad on die to an aluminum chassis and fins. Link
They are thermally controlled to reduce output power when overheated but have yet to see them dim on me while moving but guess that may be determined on a hot summer night or sitting still long enough. Intensity wise they are a 3600lm set (according to the description) and 4300k color temp. A little dimmer than my HIDs and need to do a little more tweaking to line up the cutoff so it's even but they do throw the light down the road.

I'll try them out for awhile but may go with an actively cooled model with higher intensity such as this one Link
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Well, I added some 8000 lumen headlights to my 2004 AN400. They burn 25 watts each, generating 4000 lumens. These are the ones I bought, advertized as 8000 lumen 50 watt, but that's for two of them:

https://www.amazon.com/BEAMTECH-Head...EKQBCF5PEQJ56Y

I got these because they didn't have a fan or a big old heat sink cable hanging out the back, and I didn't necessarily need any more light from the headlamps, I just wanted to reduce the load on the engine so it idles better in cold weather after just starting up. The original 55 watt low beam halogen bulbs were plenty bright, and I hear that halogens throw about 1800 lumens. The 4000 lumens of the new LED low beams are about twice as bright, as expected, and burn about half the power, and are slightly better with dispersion, so less blinding of oncoming traffic. Here are some pics comparing the two- easy installation, low beam compared, high beam compared, and dispersion:
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